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As part of the [community profile] three_weeks_for_dw project (running April 25-May 15), I'm posting some content just to Dreamwidth. This is a good opportunity to seek new readers for your blog and new blogs to read, and to recommend stuff you enjoy on other people's blogs to help them make new connections too. Previously we discussed "Skin Hunger," "Touch Aversion," "Primates Need Touch," "Self-Soothing and Self-Control," "Compassion and Gentleness," "Creating Safe Space," "Building Trust," and "Healthy Vulnerability."


Coping with Emotional Drop

After I wrote the installment on healthy vulnerability, I realized that there seems to be no unflavored description of the "emotional drop" phenomenon and appropriate aftercare. Everything detailed comes from the "sub drop" version in the kink community, and not everyone feels comfortable with kink. On the speculative fiction side, there is "con drop" but little discussion of it. So I'll just fill in this gap as best I can, though many of the resource links still point to kink articles. Hopefully other folks will start writing about other drop examples.


Emotional drop is a natural effect that sometimes follows an emotional high. This can occur after any strong connection, such as a kink scene, cuddle party, convention of like-minded people, etc. It is more likely the more intense the feelings and intimacy get. It is also more likely if someone's everyday life contains a great deal less of intimacy and positive feelings. Drop may happen immediately after an event, most often a few hours, occasionally a few days. If you experience this often, you may want to make yourself a "drop kit" to cope with it.

The drop can have both physical and emotional aspects. If you're experiencing it, understand that it's not "all in your head" -- it's very real and it can knock you off your feet. The physical effects come from exerting your body, if you did something like rough play or running around a hotel all weekend with maybe not enough food or sleep. They also come from the changing biochemistry that generates feelings and moods. You may feel stiff, wobbly, light-headed, tired, hungry and thirsty, etc. The emotional effects come from tension and release: the anticipation before the event, the peak during the event, and then the return to ordinary life afterwards. You may feel overwhelmed, confused, giddy, restless, mopey, lethargic, isolated, all-peopled-out, etc.

Aftercare may involve someone else taking care of you, or taking care of yourself if nobody else is available. First address any pressing physical needs. Then deal with emotional needs; you may need to talk things out or snuggle or have a little space to yourself. There is a set of mudras, hand gestures for focusing energy, that restores balance.  Try to arrange a gentle transition from an intense event back to ordinary life. Goal-Fish can help you choose tasks based on how much time and energy you have, and whether you want fun or chores. This is a good way to ease back into everyday activity. Remember that everyone deserves to be safe and comfortable, and that taking care of needs is important for healthy function.

To lower the chance of drop and its severity:
* Plan ahead. Think about what might happen and how to deal with it. A drop kit may be useful. 
* Meditate on resilience.  The shivalinga mudra also enhances this quality.
* Meet your basic needs as best you can on a regular basis. Going too long with little or nothing and then getting a large amount tends to be jarring.
* Remember to eat and drink. Low blood sugar and dehydration make everything else worse.
* Get an adequate amount of sleep, preferably on decent bedding in a dim quiet room. Lack of sleep also makes everything else worse.
* Minimize abrupt changes by starting slow and including a cool-down period. Use the acceptance mudra to modulate the process. Don't jump right into the middle of things and then jump off a cliff at the end. You will go splat and could hurt yourself that way.

If you experience drop as exhaustion, stiffness, or lethargy:
* Allow time for extra rest after an intense activity. Sleep, nap, or lie still.
* Surround yourself with comforting things such as a thick sweater, fuzzy blankets, soft pillows, etc.
* Choose soothing, nurturing support such as a hot bath and nutritious comfort food.
* Relaxing entertainment such as quiet music or a feel-good movie may help.
* Try the prana mudra to increase energy as you begin to recover.
* Get back into normal activity slowly and gently if possible. Work as you must, but don't let friends drag you into a party or other boisterous activity you could avoid, until you are ready for it again.

If you experience drop as anxiety, giddiness, or restlessness:
* Use slow, gentle motion to calm yourself. Yoga and t'ai chi are good examples of controlled movement. Don't try to hold still if that feels wrong to you now.
* Meditate on tranquility. Acknowledge and set aside your nervous thoughts. Grounding exercises may also help. The mantangi mudra invokes calm. 
* Surround yourself with steadying things such as a snug sweater, smooth sheets, a firm chair, etc.
* Choose soothing, nurturing support such as a hot bath and savory comfort food.
* Relaxing entertainment such as slow music or a feel-good movie may help.
* Select one practical, short-term task and do it. Small housework chores such as doing a sink of dishes or a load of laundry are good for this. Use it as a moving meditation to focus your mind on something simple and useful.

If you experience drop as loneliness, disconnection, or feeling lost:
* Reach out and contact people. Do not allow isolation to take hold. Spend time with a friend or family member. Call someone you met at the event. Post about your feelings on your blog and ask for emotional support and discussion.
* Physical contact such as cuddling or massage is best, but long-distance support is better than nothing.
* Use the anjali mudra for oneness.
* Surround yourself with comforting things such as a thick sweater, fuzzy blankets, soft pillows, etc.
* Invigorating entertainment such as upbeat music or a buddy movie may help.
* Give yourself a little time to recover physically, then go where there are people, such as a coffeehouse or park. Talk to them if feasible, but at least watch the social interactions.

To provide aftercare for someone experiencing emotional drop:
* Check the lists above for ideas on handling specific manifestations of drop.
* Remain calm. Freaking out never helps and can make matters worse.
* Be there. Most people feel better with company, although not all of them will admit it. Some prefer quiet support to active pampering. Back away if asked, but check to make sure that's what the person really needs -- introverts don't like to be crowded.
* Use the varada mudra for compassion and giving.  Use the gyan mudra for relieving stress and focusing the mind.
* Make sure the person is warm, dry, fed, hydrated, and resting in a safe position. Meet any other physical needs that arise.
* Provide effective emotional support. Offer reassurances and comfort. Meet any more emotional needs that come up.
* Be a good listener. This makes most people feel better and gives you clues about what else might help.
* After you part company, follow up a day or two later to see how the person is doing, in case they need more attention.

What are your experiences with emotional drop, your own or someone else's? What do you find helpful in dealing with it? Do you know of any other drop-related resources based on something other than "sub drop" in kinky context?

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Date: 2013-05-04 06:15 am (UTC)
avia: Pink flowers in a cold snowy town, giving a distant feeling. (it is distant)
From: [personal profile] avia
I need to remember this, because I think "drop" can be an experience I have, if I am going somewhere or doing something that is closely connected to therian feelings, and then I am less connected to those feelings for some time. For me it is definitely a disconnected feeling. It is lonely, but not like "lonely for company", more like "I feel alien in the world".

I also feel there is a thing like "creative drop", when you spend a long time emotionally wrapped up in a project, and then it's finished and you feel empty and you don't know what to do with your self, you feel useless because you're not working on a big thing but you're too tired from the old project to start anything new, etc.

I don't know about creative drop so much, but, for me, I think the letters could help for a therian drop, if I am doing it with a friend, I could say "let's write something at this moment to remember these experiences". Or, if I can take something home from the event, for example if I go to a swan sanctuary, and I could bring back some literature or a plushie, or if I take photos and then I get to work on editing them for some days.

Re: Thoughts

Date: 2013-05-04 06:30 am (UTC)
avia: (nest of books)
From: [personal profile] avia
I might try to write an article about it if I have more thoughts!

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Date: 2013-05-04 06:30 am (UTC)
sylvaine: Dark-haired person with black eyes & white pupils. (Default)
From: [personal profile] sylvaine
Thank you for putting this post together. It's a great resource & I think it's important to note that emotional drop encompasses more than just sub drop.

Re: You're welcome!

Date: 2013-05-04 07:19 am (UTC)
sylvaine: Dark-haired person with black eyes & white pupils. (Default)
From: [personal profile] sylvaine
Linked to it on twitter & my journal, for now, because I think plenty of people on my various flists might find it just as useful as me. ^^

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Date: 2013-05-04 07:02 am (UTC)
gala_apples: (panic 3.0 snuggly)
From: [personal profile] gala_apples
My worst experience of emotional drop was after my first Harry Potter con (Terminus, in Chicago.) Given some distance I'm willing to bet that part of the reason it was so bad was that it was my first con, seeing as I've been to others and while I DON'T WANNA LEEEAVE I WILL CRY was present it wasn't half as bad.

What made it a lot worse was that I was Greyhounding home, a 22 hour ride with three transfers. I was already having trouble taking care of myself, and when I missed a transfer (we were coming in late, they held the next bus, but I was confused and didn't understand what was going on and didn't stand in line where I was supposed to) I just completely lost my shit. I sat on the floor of the terminal and started shaking and sobbing.

But actually, that's what helped fix it too, sort of. Because there were two women waiting for their bus, and they noticed me and came over. One rubbed my back until I stopped crying and gave me five bucks for the vending machine. So I think for me the drop was about going from "everyone here is like me, everyone here is great, I love everyone and the world loves me" to ALONE FOREVER, and when I got solid proof that the world actually DID have good people I felt better.

Lately my technique's been the same. The last con I went to, I made plans to stay with a friend in that area for a week after, to give me time to decompress from ALL THE PEOPLE YAY to 'mostly alone, but okay'. And the last fantastic moshy concert I went to (another experience that gives me drop) I went with a friend and we hung out after to still have each other.

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Date: 2013-05-04 12:31 pm (UTC)
aceofannwn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] aceofannwn
...oh.

So that's why parties and things leave me depressed afterwards, especially if it was something I really looked forward to and enjoyed? Huh. This post was really helpful. Thank you.

If I'm understanding this topic correctly...

Date: 2013-05-04 12:33 pm (UTC)
raze: A man and a rooster. (Default)
From: [personal profile] raze
I find that after I do any sort of rigorous volunteer work, I feel aimless, empty, and depressed after the fact. I get a tremendous amount of pleasure out of volunteering, and once invested to the point where it was a daily thing. Now that my health and schedule are prohibitive and make it a once-in-a-while affair, the times when I get to do it put me through a rollercoaster of near-euphoric happiness during, and pure misery after.
Edited Date: 2013-05-04 12:33 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2013-05-04 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] chanter1944
I think I'll be linking to this over on twitter. :)

On the same subject, do you have any advice for someone likely to be dealing with a drop while obliged to interact with the world as normal? I'm specifically thinking of being mid-drop and having to go back to work. Most recently, I was dropping like /heck/ due to circumstances you're already aware of, and had to be in an office full of coworkers and interacting with customers down a phone line all day. I couldn't call out, because I was fine physically and couldn't justify it to myself, but I spent most of the day sporadically fighting back tears. I also didn't feel safe escaping to the bathroom and losing it to get it over with; the environment was all wrong. I'm quite sure this made my eventual reaction worse; I came home, dealt with the most pressing of my chores, and then *lost it* for a bit. Cried like I haven't in a long time. What in the world do you do in that situation? I can't well tell coworkers 'go easy on me, I'm dropping.' Nobody there knows me that well, and I don't intend to change that, with the possible exception of one person. Ditto customers and how.

Several subtle things to help (I hope)

Date: 2014-04-28 03:47 pm (UTC)
dialecticdreamer: My work (Default)
From: [personal profile] dialecticdreamer
One of the things that works for a good friend in a very trying emotional state is to have a "pocket sized care kit" for herself. Literally, most of it can fit in an Altoids tin. I've shamelessly stolen the notion and am setting one up for myself, as I tend to get really, really irritable after a long volunteer "job", and don't want to make my family ground zero for what is actually just me "dropping" from optimistic, other-focused helping to the "real world mindset" where the hours I've just spent don't seem to COUNT for anything.

Okay, first, start looking at what works for you. Textures you like, scents you like, etc. I've found keeping a short list on an index card really helps when I'm sorting out the few of many, many options I have.

My friend likes very smooth textures, so she put a square (about 10cm/4" across) of nylon "satin"--you know the blanket edging?-- folded in as the primary item. Stroking the fabric and thinking of the things that worked, were enjoyable, or energizing can be done very, very subtly. With a longer, harder to control emotional upheval, it's easy to slip the fabric into a pants pocket and just touch it occasionally. Do make sure it's a washable fabric, for this reason. Me, I like the feel of wool, raw silk, things with a lot of texture to them but natural, so I've chosen appropriately, but bought enough material to make several replacements.

There's a small, smoothly textured pebble for a physical weight to manipulate-- hers is limestone, or granite, straight out of a gravel driveway. She shifts it from hand to hand while pouring in the negative self-talk, the worry, the junk. And then, when she is alone, drops it, imagining all that negativity falling off to be absorbed into the earth. Mine is the opposite, a sliver of cloudy, striated stone, not quite a geode, cut flat and polished. It's a quarter inch thick or so, and only rough on the natural outside edge of the original stone. Think "worry stone", which is how I use it- I stroke the smooth surface, imagining the negative (dark) energy transforming into the lighter colors and then to white before disappearing into the higher end of the energy spectrum not visible to me.

We both keep a couple of scratch-and-sniff stickers in the pack, of a single scent we each enjoy. The fabric does pick up the scent, the stone less so. In dire straits, stick on something you're touching often anyways, like the wrist rest of a mouse pad.

The hardest part is getting the items together, but please try it.

Re: Several subtle things to help (I hope)

Date: 2019-07-19 03:13 pm (UTC)
technoshaman: Tux (Default)
From: [personal profile] technoshaman
(jumping in years later) us tea-witches were talking portable altar last night; one mentioned one that would fit in an Altoids tin...

I'm at the point in my present-life where I don't *need* tools most of the time; the last time (quite recently) where I geared up for maximum whoop-ass (which turned out to be unnecessary) my kit consisted of athame, salt, fresh bread, and rose lemonade, and that was *that*... yeah, it wasn't wee-box sized but there was a LOT of room in that backpack that had nothing to go in it.

AND this is an excellent idea; a comfort-kit. Hmmm. A bit of cloth or knittage, a worry-stone, a small stuffed critter, a collapsible bottle, an assortment of meal-bars of varying types... one no soy, one no wheat, one no milk, a couple of different fruit...

The stuffy idea was Ysabet's, after the T-American cops who keep bears on hand to comfort kids who, or whose people have, suffered trauma of some sort...

Re: Several subtle things to help (I hope)

Date: 2019-07-19 03:37 pm (UTC)
dialecticdreamer: My work (Default)
From: [personal profile] dialecticdreamer
You can go smaller. I can fit a full-senses comfort kit in a container the size of a woman's half-circle makeup bag-- about the length of my hand but only an inch or so thick.

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Date: 2013-05-04 04:40 pm (UTC)
brushwolf: Icon created by ScaperDeage on DeviantArt (Default)
From: [personal profile] brushwolf
Actually, while it's not as bad as con drop, I've noticed that I have a really small scale version in response to painting. Digital media offers endless editing ability with no drying time and perfectly opaque color, so it's much more possible to do something like complete painting stuff in a solid 2-6 hour sitting. Digital painting is a relatively new skill for me so it's not the "recharge" drawing is, and occasionally the amount of thought put in winds up being more intensive.

I've noticed that it's very easy to dump a batch of time and energy into something, and kinda crash out afterwards for hours (this is especially bad if I post what's basically an amateur/student improving to art archives - and there's a metric for its popularity compared to stuff by far more experienced, professional, or simply popular artists). I'm curious whether anyone else out there has had a similar thing with visual arts, writing or music.

Re: Yes...

Date: 2013-05-05 08:11 pm (UTC)
brushwolf: Icon created by ScaperDeage on DeviantArt (Default)
From: [personal profile] brushwolf
Thanks! Solidarity feels useful and good, even if theoretically rationally it makes sense that other folks will stumble away from really dumping energy into stuff and need a batch of recovery time.

Re: Yes...

Date: 2013-05-06 05:14 pm (UTC)
brushwolf: Icon created by ScaperDeage on DeviantArt (Default)
From: [personal profile] brushwolf
I don't get big lulls of no drawing - even at the most drained, it'll only be an hour or two before I start doing thumbnails or thinking about visual art. About 4-5 hours is the most I can crank without a break on artwork, but these days that can be very varied, and penciling or inking doesn't have any drop, but painting specifically does. I think this might simply be scope of the project and experience (like I haven't really tried to do big comic book pages much). As I learn more about painting the time I can crank on a single painting is pretty consistently 2-5 hours (I pencil or ink things separate from Photoshop, traditionally because I find it easier to work with), and after that, that's when I can feel really crushed, really easily. I'm not sure how much is a human thing (everyone feels drained walking away from longer chunks of activity) and how much is a personal thing (lots of self-judgment fairly independent of actually making pictures).

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Date: 2013-05-05 01:06 am (UTC)
serpentine: red maple leaves hanging from a tree (Nature - Autumn Leaves)
From: [personal profile] serpentine
I'm one of those people who, after a lot of social stuff, sometimes experiences a combination of first being giddy and restless and then hitting exhaustion and lethargy afterwards, though there are times where I'll skip the first part and go straight to the exhaustion.

I've pretty much had to figure out my own ways to handle things, but some of them are one the lists you've made.

I never really called it drop before, but it's a good term for the whole phenomenon because as you said, it covers situations outside of kink.

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Date: 2013-05-05 03:09 am (UTC)
thnidu: my familiar. "Beanie Baby" -type dragon, red with white wings (Default)
From: [personal profile] thnidu
memory-tagged. grazie, madonna.

Re: *laugh*

Date: 2013-05-05 03:28 pm (UTC)
thnidu: my familiar. "Beanie Baby" -type dragon, red with white wings (Default)
From: [personal profile] thnidu

(Looks naïvely puzzled.) What, "Thank you, milady"? :-)

Re: *laugh*

Date: 2013-05-06 05:00 pm (UTC)
thnidu: my familiar. "Beanie Baby" -type dragon, red with white wings (Default)
From: [personal profile] thnidu

Of course! So I put it in an Italian context with "grazie".

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Date: 2013-09-06 10:49 pm (UTC)
natf: (Default)
From: [personal profile] natf
I first remember hearing about the "drop" concept in the 80s with regards to illegal drugs like heroin (no, not me!) and it was sometimes called, then in the UK, a "come-down". The first time I experienced what I now know was "con-like drop" was after a week away at a religious/xtian camp as a pre-teen and coming back home, trying to describe it to mum and being very happy/enthusiastic about it all and she just told me to shut up and simmer down and I was devastated. I cried for hours. We had been brought up xtian (Church of England so pretty staid and quiet) and the camp was organised by Crusaders (a pretty Evangelical organisation). I was "born again" that week and mum just did not want to know. She knew what Christian was and this was not that. *sigh*

ETA: It was the hypocrisy of the various xtian groups/churches/etc. that robbed me of my "faith" when I was at university. I am now a scientist and atheist.
Edited Date: 2013-09-06 10:55 pm (UTC)

First exposure to the concept

Date: 2014-04-28 04:02 pm (UTC)
dialecticdreamer: My work (Default)
From: [personal profile] dialecticdreamer
of "emotional drop" was wow, ages ago, but we began calling it "crashing"-- because that's how our very active, very intense child DID things. Zoom-ZOOM-wow-ZOOM-huh-SPLAT-THUD. It was a matter of parental survival to figure out how to catch that instant of "huh" and turn it into a transitional period. Splat-THUD parts were to be avoided, if at all possible, not because he was a "spoiled child throwing a tantrum" but because they would wring all three (and later, four) of us out for DAYS.

We borrowed the concept of "transition time" when dealing with a toddler- "We're going to the store in five minutes. Do you see your jacket?" Later, "I'm getting ready to go to the store. Do you HAVE your jacket and shoes on?" et cetera. It's a very specific skill set when used for kids that age, called "toddler wrangling" around here, LOL. But take out the dynamic of "parent leading child" and it's a perfectly valid way to give YOURSELF a breather between kinds of work, work and relaxing, relaxing and sleep, often very subtly. I'm absent-minded enough that nobody blinks when they see me pull out a list for something. GRIN.

More broadly, it's time without anyone ELSE directing what one does. It's pretty much a house rule that hubby gets an automatic half hour of 'transition' time when he gets home from work so he can shift gears and decompress a bit. Nobody hits him with "A stole my toy," or "the washer overflowed and I don't know what is wrong with it" or "your family called about --". Just, whole worlds of TOO MUCH for him to deal with after driving home. Me, I /need/ the transition time before doing something I find stressful, so I tend to expect him to take up the slack /before/, while he expects me to do so /after/ a stressor.

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Date: 2014-09-08 05:57 pm (UTC)
zellieh: Buffy's Willow & Tara leaning in to each other, foreheads touching, eyes closed. Text: LOVE (Buffy Willow/Tara: Love)
From: [personal profile] zellieh
Hi, you don't know me, but I've just subscribed to your journal and granted you access, because I really liked this series of posts.

I've been looking for posts on being Touch Starved after seeing it mentioned, but most of the articles I found before were creepy or confusing, and this series has just cleared up a lot of issues for me so easily. I'm pretty sure it will be useful to me personally and also for worldbuilding and characterisation when I'm writing.

What are your preferences for linking to your work, or quoting you? I'd like to think about this some more, but I might want to post about this later.

Thanks you for sharing this information in such clear, plain english.

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Date: 2017-10-19 06:02 pm (UTC)
readera: a cup of tea with an open book behind it (Default)
From: [personal profile] readera
I haven't heard of dropping in a non kinky context before but it makes so much sense. Both my partner and I are introverts, so we both have dropped before. He is disabled, and spoonie resources were helpful in that context. This post looks so useful and I can't wait to dig deeper into it.

One thing I don't hear about, even in kink, is dom drop. I have had sub drop before but my partner has had Dom drop at times. It surprised us and took a bit for us to figure out what it is, but now we have a system pretty well worked out.

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