Feedback on "Saudades"
Feb. 7th, 2014 12:34 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ysabetwordsmithI've posted the last part of the poem "Saudades." It's gotten fewer responses than other stuff I've posted in this series, and more mixed. I'd like to pin down the differences ...
Poll #14931 Feedback on Saudades
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 20
With 1 being dislike and 10 being like, how much did you enjoy "Saudades"?
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Mean: 7.24 Median: 7 Std. Dev 2.10
Mean: 7.24 Median: 7 Std. Dev 2.10
| 1 | 0 (0.0%) | |
|---|---|---|
| 2 | 1 (5.9%) | |
| 3 | 0 (0.0%) | |
| 4 | 1 (5.9%) | |
| 5 | 1 (5.9%) | |
| 6 | 1 (5.9%) | |
| 7 | 6 (35.3%) | |
| 8 | 2 (11.8%) | |
| 9 | 2 (11.8%) | |
| 10 | 3 (17.6%) |
What did you like about this poem?
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Bruce-and-Hulk are favorite characters. I'll read almost anything about them.
7 (41.2%)
Emotional whump! YAY! Hit them again.
5 (29.4%)
I like the backstory.
9 (52.9%)
I like the inside perspective of Bruce-and-Hulk.
11 (64.7%)
I like poetry.
8 (47.1%)
I like your writing and read most/all of it.
11 (64.7%)
Something else.
2 (11.8%)
What did you dislike about this poem?
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I'm not a big fan of Bruce-and-Hulk.
0 (0.0%)
Too dark! Too dark! Turn up the lights.
3 (20.0%)
Poetry ... meh. I prefer fiction.
8 (53.3%)
Backstory doesn't grab me.
0 (0.0%)
Something else.
6 (40.0%)
Re: Thoughts
Date: 2014-02-15 07:41 am (UTC)How long should we run this for?
I don't think I can offer everyone a drabble, though I can certainly make an icon generic enough for everyone to use. What do you think?
Re: Thoughts
Date: 2014-02-15 08:18 am (UTC)I'd say post about it on our Dreamwidth journals, and ask people to boost the signal.
>> How long should we run this for? <<
Howbout two weeks.
>> I don't think I can offer everyone a drabble, though I can certainly make an icon generic enough for everyone to use. What do you think? <<
Icons sound good. Maybe do drabbles for the first X people who respond? Or one a day on certain days, chosen from people who post then?
How do we want to score the content things like rape? Do we want to do a preliminary poll asking how dark people think the individual elements are?
Re: Thoughts
Date: 2014-02-15 09:48 am (UTC)What if, afterward, I just pick five respondents at random who share at least one fandom with me? (Do you want me to make sure I don't pick the winner of your book?)
Do we want to ask respondents to score the fics before looking at other people's responses? I say we should.
What will we do about the fact that some of the material might be objectionable to some people? I suppose we could instruct people to rate a fic as an automatic ten if it's too dark to stomach, but what about fics that people can't finish because their brains work so differently from the writers' that they can't understand them, or that they can't finish because of loving descriptions of beautiful scenery resembling a place where they were traumatized, just to pick random hypotheticals? Should we do a composite list of warnings at the beginning without specifying which fics they're for (because I kind of feel like seeing the length of a warnings list for a specific fic might affect someone's rating, like, "oh, this one has five lines of warnings, maybe I should rate it darker" or "oh, this one has five lines of warnings, I should rate it lighter in case that's skewing my rating upwards") and ask that people not get started unless they're willing to read all the fics whether they like them or not? (We should probably also list the total wordcount we're asking them to commit to.)
Re: Thoughts
Date: 2014-02-15 10:12 am (UTC)That may have to come after the testing, though, during the analysis phase. Speaking of which, I hope you have some ability to handle that stuff, because you do not want me touching the numbers end of things.
>> If we don't have enough information from our first sample-- e.g., if our only rapefics are also very fluffy and focus heavily on making everything better and how it's not okay because people are special and wonderful and don't deserve to be violated, while the rest of the selection is less upbeat and affirmative-- then we can run another poll later. <<
I was mainly working around your set, adding different fandoms and aiming for a range of tones. And I realized there's pretty much no way to tell any authorial details from fanfic because it's mostly bylined with nicknames, sans any other identifiers. But if we rerun this another time with original fiction we may have better luck.
>> (I haven't yet had time to read your selections yet, but I'll trust you. Have you read my picks?) <<
I read yours before picking mine, so I could aim wide of that.
>> What if, afterward, I just pick five respondents at random who share at least one fandom with me? <<
That works.
>> (Do you want me to make sure I don't pick the winner of your book?) <<
Yes, good plan. There are random-number generators where you could just plug in the people and prizes, do the whole stack at once.
>> Do we want to ask respondents to score the fics before looking at other people's responses? I say we should. <<
Yes.
>> What will we do about the fact that some of the material might be objectionable to some people? <<
1) Tell them upfront that we're testing for light/dark tonal spectrum, which means that some of the samples will be really dark. This is not an activity for folks who dislike darkfic.
2) List warnings for the stories en masse.
>> I suppose we could instruct people to rate a fic as an automatic ten if it's too dark to stomach, but what about fics that people can't finish because their brains work so differently from the writers' that they can't understand them, or that they can't finish because of loving descriptions of beautiful scenery resembling a place where they were traumatized, just to pick random hypotheticals? <<
I wouldn't try to mess with their ratings. It's up to readers how they want to express their interpretation of darkness.
>> Should we do a composite list of warnings at the beginning without specifying which fics they're for (because I kind of feel like seeing the length of a warnings list for a specific fic might affect someone's rating, like, "oh, this one has five lines of warnings, maybe I should rate it darker" or "oh, this one has five lines of warnings, I should rate it lighter in case that's skewing my rating upwards") and ask that people not get started unless they're willing to read all the fics whether they like them or not? <<
That sounds sensible.
>> (We should probably also list the total wordcount we're asking them to commit to.) <<
I listed wordcounts for the stories in my batch.
Re: Thoughts
Date: 2014-02-15 10:17 pm (UTC)The wordcounts total 37,031 words.
I'll handle the math and prize-awarding. Do you want me to write up the instructions and whatnot, or can you do that? And you're happy with the list of dark topics you've put together, right? I don't need to help with that?
When do we start? Is there anything we still need to do that I've forgotten?