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This is Asexual Awareness Week.  Appreciate aces and entertainment that is about something other than sex/romance.

I have written about many asexual, aromantic, and other ace-spectrum characters over the years.  You can find some of them via my QUILTBAG Characters post.

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Date: 2017-10-27 06:11 pm (UTC)
capri0mni: A black Skull & Crossbones with the Online Disability Pride Flag as a background (Default)
From: [personal profile] capri0mni
Yeah. Thanks for that. I think the piece where Stalwart Stan got kidnapped was one of the pennies that dropped in my brain that finally got me to:

oh... ... ... Oh! Now I get it!

(Man! I can not tell you how confusing Match.com, etc., was, back when I was working under the mistaken assumption I was straight)

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Date: 2017-10-28 11:44 am (UTC)
capri0mni: A black Skull & Crossbones with the Online Disability Pride Flag as a background (Default)
From: [personal profile] capri0mni
That must have been maddening

Indeed.

As I wrote on my own Tumblr, for this week:

[If asexuality were a recognized orientation, when I first tried online dating] I would not have spent years trying to find a heterosexual partner, only to have each of those potential partners tell me: “Sorry, but there’s just no spark,” and break it off, just when I was beginning to really like them. I would not have spent those years thinking:

  • Either there was some big, secret, flaw in me that I needed to find and fix before I deserved to be in a stable, supportive relationship (’cause if the same thing happens in every relationship, and you’re the only constant, then you must be the problem… right?)
  • Or that all the guys I happened to connect with through these dating sites were both oversexed and terribly ableist, and the only reason they didn’t want to be with me was because they were grossed out by the idea of my wheelchair


And even though learning that I'm Ace, has not led, yet, to finding my Queer Platonic Partner, it has led to me forgiving myself, and letting my memories of all those (perfectly decent) guys out of the "sleazy creep" purgatory I'd put them in.

Also: if you want to complicate things for your characters even more, here's another term I came across this week:

Autochorissexualism:

A disconnection between oneself and a sexual target/object of arousal; may involve sexual fantasies, or arousal in response to erotica or pornography, but lacking any desire to be a participant in the sexual activities therein. Commonly found in asexual people: an analogous feeling may occur in aromantic people for romantic fantasies. Coined by Anthony Bogaert.


...And I can't help but wonder if the moral panic that blooms in popular media every now and then (like the fruiting bodies of fungi after a rain) about "Men addicted to porn, but 'unable to connect' to real women" are actually just talking about guys who are Ace. ...And if that were recognized as such, would "ace" still be (in terms of numbers) a 'minor" orientation?

Re: Thoughts

Date: 2017-10-29 01:24 am (UTC)
capri0mni: A black Skull & Crossbones with the Online Disability Pride Flag as a background (Default)
From: [personal profile] capri0mni
Well, that depends. Does the guy really want a romantic, sexual relationship with someone else? If he does, then it's an obstacle. If he doesn't, then it's not.

The problem with that line of thinking, though, is that if people don't know that asexuality exists/is something that's possible as an identity, they very likely could attribute their unhappiness to failing a sexual/romantic relationships (as I did for years), instead of being unhappy because the relationships you do have are not honored in our culture the way sexual relationships are.

I mean: it's great the DSM5 now has a caveat that low sex drive is to no longer be considered a medical disorder, if a person self-identifies as "asexual."

But people who've never heard of the word "asexual" aren't going to call themselves that... And they'll still be subject to having their orientation medicalized.

Oh, and just tonight, someone posted a link to this article from Teen Vogue, which talks about this precise issue: What being asexual means to me (I swear, last year and this year especially, Teen Vogue has become a portal for Terramange leakage).

Re: Thoughts

Date: 2017-10-29 12:07 pm (UTC)
capri0mni: A black Skull & Crossbones with the Online Disability Pride Flag as a background (Default)
From: [personal profile] capri0mni
Indeed. Representation matters.

(and, along with Capitalist forces trying to skew everything to their favor, we also have to deal with exclutionists within the rights movements themselves: feminists who want to exclude trans women, gays and lesbians who want to exclude aces, genderfluid, and bi folk for not being oppressed like they are, etc.)

All of which is why awareness weeks and things matter.

(I just wish I liked the aesthetics of the Ace pride flag better than I do) :-/

Re: Thoughts

Date: 2017-10-29 08:16 pm (UTC)
capri0mni: A black Skull & Crossbones with the Online Disability Pride Flag as a background (Default)
From: [personal profile] capri0mni
Hm.

I have my own flag to wave and promote, first.

(Though the intersex flag is classic -- top notch vexillology).

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Date: 2017-10-27 06:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] seishun
*\o/* it was a major relief to understand i'm ace.

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Date: 2017-10-28 06:48 am (UTC)
chanter1944: a blue-shaded dyed egg (not enough blue in the world)
From: [personal profile] chanter1944
As an ace spectrum lady with both demi and grey as orientation variables, thank you for this. :D

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Date: 2017-10-28 02:49 pm (UTC)
mdlbear: blue fractal bear with text "since 2002" (Default)
From: [personal profile] mdlbear
Thank you.

Gray-ace, demiromantic, as far as I can tell. I enjoy sex but don't seem to feel sexual attraction, and I have no idea whether what I feel in a relationship is romantic by anyone's definition.

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Date: 2017-10-28 03:02 pm (UTC)
mdlbear: blue fractal bear with text "since 2002" (Default)
From: [personal profile] mdlbear

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Date: 2017-10-29 04:11 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mama_kestrel
The other thing people don't realize is that orientation can change. I was always demi-sexual; my heart had to be well and truly committed before my body wanted anything to do with sex. But after attempts to reproduce screwed up my hormones completely, and surgery finished the job? I'm totally ace now, but still romantic/monogamous. I feel badly for my partner, who is also demi, still interested in sex but not with anyone else, but I can't seem to convey to the few I've talked to that no, I don't miss it myself. Why would I miss something I have no interest in whatsoever? Cuddles, yes, lots of cuddles and affection and love. But while I wasn't asexual when we married, I have been these last 15 years. That's half my marriage. No one talks about that possibility, but I'm sure I'm not unique.

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