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I read this article in which Stephen Hawking argues against the afterlife.  Okay, he's a smart guy.  I admire him greatly.  But he's a smart science  guy; he doesn't have nearly the same credentials in terms of researching religion.  (Consider that it's a poor idea to take the Pope's advice on science.  I'm not sure it's a better idea to take Hawking's advice on religion, for similar reasons.  It's not his field.)  He argues that science will win against religion "because it works."

Science is a relatively recent human discovery.  Religion seems to go back to the origin of human artifacts that we can interpret, and possibly farther.  Science exists in some but not all human cultures.  Religion exists in all known human cultures, and when people try to stamp it out, it regenerates.  When it comes to decision-making, if there is an apparent conflict between science and religion, considerably more people will decide based on religion even if the practical effects of doing that are negative.  I like science a lot.  But I don't think it's fair to imply that science works and religion doesn't.  Certainly it's possible for religion to malfunction, as anything can in a flawed universe.  But when something has been around for 50,000+ years throughout an entire species, that pretty much has to fit some  definition of "it works."

You can have the most awesome metric toolkit in the world, but it's not going to be a lot of use on standard machinery.  Some tools generalize well across disciplines; others don't.  This is not to say that the tools of science are never useful in religion, or vice verse; but it does mean you need to know your tools and both fields before understanding what will swap and what won't.

Re: Well...

Date: 2011-05-17 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyonesse.livejournal.com
it seems to me that given his membership in this society and its stated goals, he would have been discussing these matters at the highest levels available to all involved, not merely exchanging personal anecdotes.

your interpretive mileage may vary, but i still think your pointer helps make my case. so thanks :)

Re: Well...

Date: 2011-05-17 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marina-bonomi.livejournal.com
'Available to all involved' is the operative sentence, we just happen to differ on what that level actually may be, and no, I wasn't thinking of 'merely exchanging personal anectodes' either.
But I do think the horse is quite dead at this point.

Re: Well...

Date: 2011-05-17 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyonesse.livejournal.com
*nods* i yield the greasy spot on the ground, and invite you for a cuppa tea :)

Re: Well...

Date: 2011-05-17 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marina-bonomi.livejournal.com
Tea is just my thing.:) Lemon or milk? ;-)

Re: Well...

Date: 2011-05-17 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyonesse.livejournal.com
*grin* i like either, just not both at once! :)

Re: Well...

Date: 2011-05-17 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marina-bonomi.livejournal.com
*nods* definitely!

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