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.. include delaying Alzheimer's disease, and probably similar forms of cognitive decline.  This effect far outstrips the latest drug approved for that purpose.

1) Given a choice between a free treatment that requires a lot of work, and an expensive drug, I suspect that people who can obtain the drug will prefer it.  But the free option remains available to everyone.

2) Since proficiency is what matters, a great improvement to public health could be made by teaching all children a second language from birth or at least preschool, when it is possible to learn with native fluency.  I doubt that America has any interest in doing so.  But any parent could arrange it for their own kids, especially if there is a history of cognitive illness in the family.

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Date: 2023-02-22 05:52 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] goatgodschild
Learning a language sounds more fun than Sudoku -- I don't like Sudoku at all.

For what it's worth, I have done quite a lot of Duolingo:
- Completed the Latin course, which isn't saying much, but I was proud of doing so all the same.
- Completed about half of the German course.
- Fought my way through some French.
- I started the Welsh course as well, but then I found out that it was completely useless, so I gave up on it.

I've thought about picking up some workbooks for myself, but have put it off.

Do you suppose that conlangs might be similarly useful to the mind?

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Date: 2023-02-23 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] see_also_friend
>>Yes. The protection comes from multiplying connections. Your brain doesn't care if you're speaking German or Sindarin, it only cares that you're demanding a lot of cross-referencing.<<

Variables:

I wonder if learning languages of different modality would work, i.e. if you grew up with spoken language would learning a sign language offer more of a buffer than learning a second spoken language? Would having a spoken and signed and tactile language be better than just two?

Do you need to be able to speak [produce linguistic output of] the language to gain benefits? Blissymbols has no spoken form, Rikchik is not speakable by humanoids, and some disabled folks might be able to receive a language without being able to speak it (selective mutism, for example).
https://www.blissymbolics.org/
https://www.omniglot.com/conscripts/rikchik.htm

[EDIT: Does having a language community affect anything? (It is harder to find a chat buddy for, say Rohingya or Laadan than for Russian or Spanish).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_language#:~:text=Rohingya%2C%20also%20known%20as%20Ru%C3%A1ingga%2C%20is%20a%20language,languages%20have%20a%20high%20degree%20of%20mutual%20intelligibility.
... END EDIT]
Edited Date: 2023-02-23 02:38 am (UTC)

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Date: 2023-02-22 10:18 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cmcmck
I'm trilingual so this is good to know!

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Date: 2023-02-22 05:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fuzzyred
I'm not actually fluent in any other language, though I suppose I might be minimally procficient in French and I'm working to improve that, plus I'm working on learning Esperanto, Hawaiian, German, and Polish. I don't know if that counts or not, but I'm having fun learning anyway.

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Date: 2023-02-23 05:33 am (UTC)
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Cool! I'm hoping to get to the point where the French and at least one other language is actually usable, but I'm not quite there yet. I am at the point though where sometimes I'll be trying to think of the word in one language and go, "Oh hey, that word is "X" in the other language," so that's cool.

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Date: 2023-02-23 06:03 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] see_also_friend
For low-cost language learning, one could try to set up a language exchange - pal up with someone who speaks your target language but wants to learn your native language.

For kids, hiring bilingual babysitters or childminders, and encouraging them to speak in their other language(s) while minding the children could work.

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Date: 2023-02-23 06:25 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] see_also_friend
>>Some online services do that. Terramagne has a lot of language clubs, but those are rarer here.<

I think there are some apps. Though the one time I tried, I couldn't tell if the people who replied wanted to talk with me or flirt with the American lady...

Big cities would have a lot of language and culture clubs. Suburbs may have a few.

Also, look at colleges/universities, religious institutions*, programs aimed at recent immigrants, and local libraries.

*Many religious institutions have services in a heritage language (i.e. Coptic) or may have a lot of foreign-language speakers in the congregation. Plus, they tend to be social hubs.

>>That's something I want to do with the Rutledge thread. Previously most of that activity was French, but now they've got plenty of Arabic speakers and a few other languages thrown in too.<<

I have mostly come at it from the other angle, suggesting people add extra languages to job-search materials.

For Rutlidge; I imagine people will end up looking after friend's kids, or bringing their own kids to mixed groups, etc. I think casual "watch my kid a minute" might still include a language barrier, but a more formal arrangement would include at least one bilingual participant.

If you decide to do this one I have a cute story-detail you could weave in. ;)

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