Poetry Fishbowl Open!
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The Poetry Fishbowl is now CLOSED. Thank you for your time and attention. Please keep an eye on this page as I am still writing.
Starting now, the Poetry Fishbowl is open! Today's theme is "Indigenous Cultures." I will be checking this page periodically throughout the day. When people make suggestions, I'll pick some and weave them together into a poem ... and then another ... and so on. I'm hoping to get a lot of ideas and a lot of poems.
I'll be soliciting ideas for tribal people, tribal warriors, two-spirits, medicine people, anthropologists, explorers, world figures, nomads, housemates, communards, superheroes, supervillains, mentors, activists, counselors, other people involved in tribal cultures, drumming (Native American, African), dancing (powwow, aboriginal, haka, folk), praying, bartering, riding horses, building trust, establishing loyalty, creating intimacy, making friends, getting to know each other, growing closer, relying on each other, asking for help and getting it, teaching people, making plans, cooking together, discovering things, troubleshooting, improvising, adapting, cooperating, taking over in an emergency, discovering yourself, studying others, testing boundaries, coming of age, learning what you can (and can't) do, sharing, fixing what's broke, upsetting the status quo, changing the world, accomplishing the impossible, recovering from setbacks, historic tribal ranges, reservations, rancherias, reserves, powwows, sweat lodges, tipis, longhouses, roundhouses, dance halls, sharehouses, museums, schools, clubs, other tribal places, the gift economy, giveaways, ceremonies, buffalo, salmon, the Three Sisters, other Turtle Island foods, tribal breeds of horse or dog or other livestock, tribal cultivars of any crop, "weeds" that are actually the escaped agricultural crops of lost empires (e.g. sunchokes, lamb's quarters), stickball, other traditional games, ceremonial paint (Native American, African, Australian), Hand Talk, regalia, African indigenous vegetables, ancient foodways, oldways heritage diets, food forests, tribal watercraft, family dynamics, dominance theory, partnerships, emotional closeness, first contact, interspecies relationships, trial and error, innovation, loneliness, problems that can't be solved by hitting, teamwork, found family, complementary strengths and weaknesses, personal growth, and poetic forms in particular.
If your identity has not yet been represented, or only done badly, then by all means prompt for it and I'll do my best to fill the gap.
Currently eligible bingo card(s) for donors wishing to sponsor a square:
Fall Festival Bingo Card 10-1-22
Among my more relevant series for the main theme:
The Bear Tunnels is all about time travel to the East Coast just as the American Invasion began, so it focuses on Wampanoag and other tribes in that area.
Beneath the Family Tree is prehistoric fiction about several hominid species living together.
Daughters of the Apocalypse features various tribal peoples including Apache, Blackfeet, Cherokee, and Pueblo.
Kande's Quest draws on African tribal traditions.
Polychrome Heroics has the Iron Horses thread (Blackfeet, Chippewa Cree), Rutledge thread (Abenaki), Shiv thread (Omaha, Winnebago, and others), and sundry mentions including Cherokee, Lakota, and Ojibwe.
The comic strip City Indians runs in the Blue Streak. It features a number of native characters living in River City rather than a reservation. It is drawn by an Osage and written by a Missourian, and they get their inspiration from contemporary issues facing tribal people. It focuses on changes over time and how people adapt to those -- or don't. Sometimes the comic strip is irreverent, but it is always relevant. It has been syndicated in Wasape, a small town near Bluehill.
Schrodinger's Heroes includes Ash with Wichita and Dinè (Navajo) heritage.
Strike of the Thunderbirds is alternate history where the people of the Americas invade Europe.
Or you can ask for something new.
I have a linkback poem, "The Glass Cat" (7 verses, Arts and Crafts America).
What Is a Poetry Fishbowl?
Writing is usually considered a solitary pursuit. One exception to this is a fascinating exercise called a "fishbowl." This has various forms, but all of them basically involve some kind of writing in public, usually with interaction between author and audience. A famous example is Harlan Ellison's series of "stories under glass" in which he sits in a bookstore window and writes a new story based on an idea that someone gives him. Writing classes sometimes include a version where students watch each other write, often with students calling out suggestions which are chalked up on the blackboard for those writing to use as inspiration.
In this online version of a Poetry Fishbowl, I begin by setting a theme; today's theme is "Indigenous Cultures." I invite people to suggest characters, settings, and other things relating to that theme. Then I use those prompts as inspiration for writing poems.
Cyberfunded Creativity
I'm practicing cyberfunded creativity. If you enjoy what I'm doing and want to see more of it, please feed the Bard. The following options are currently available:
1) Sponsor the Fishbowl -- Here is a PayPal button for donations. There is no specific requirement, but $1 is the minimum recommended size for PayPal transactions since they take a cut from every one. You can also donate via check or money order sent by postal mail. If you make a donation and tell me about it, I promise to use one of your prompts. Anonymous donations are perfectly welcome, just won't get that perk. General donations will be tallied, and at the end of the fishbowl I’ll post a list of eligible poems based on the total funding; then the audience can vote on which they want to see posted.
2) Swim, Fishie, Swim! -- A feature in conjunction with fishbowl sponsorship is this progress meter showing the amount donated. There are multiple perks, the top one being a half-price poetry sale on one series when donations reach $300.

3) Buy It Now! -- Gakked from various e-auction sites, this feature allows you to sponsor a specific poem. If you don't want to wait for some editor to buy and publish my poem so you can read it, well, now you don't have to. Sponsoring a poem means that I will immediately post it on my blog for everyone to see, with the name of the sponsor (or another dedicate) if you wish; plus you get a nonexclusive publication right, so you can post it on your own blog or elsewhere as long as you keep the credits intact. You'll need to tell me the title of the poem you want to sponsor. I'm basing the prices on length, and they're comparable to what I typically make selling poetry to magazines (semi-pro rates according to Duotrope's Digest).
0-10 lines: $5
11-25 lines: $10
26-40 lines: $15
41-60 lines: $20
Poems over 60 lines, or with very intricate structure, fall into custom pricing.
4) Commission a scrapbook page. I can render a chosen poem in hardcopy format, on colorful paper, using archival materials for background and any embellishments. This will be suitable for framing or for adding to a scrapbook. Commission details are here. See latest photos of sample scrapbooked poems: "Sample Scrapbooked Poems 1-24-11"
5) Spread the word. Echo or link to this post on your Dreamwidth, other blog, Twitter, Facebook, Digg, StumbleUpon, or any other social network. Useful Twitter hashtags include #poetryfishbowl and #promptcall. Encourage people to come here and participate in the fishbowl. If you have room for it, including your own prompt will give your readers an idea of what the prompts should look like; ideally, update later to include the thumbnail of the poem I write, and a link to the poem if it gets published. If there is at least one new prompter or donor, I will post an extra freebie poem.
Linkback perk: I have a spare series poem available, and each linkback will reveal a verse of the poem. One person can do multiple links if they're on different services, like Dreamwidth or Twitter, rather than all on LiveJournal. Comment with a link to where you posted. "The Glass Cat" has 7 verses and belongs to Arts and Crafts America.
Additional Notes
1) I customarily post replies to prompt posts telling people which of their prompts I'm using, with a brief description of the resulting poem(s). If you want to know what's available, watch for those "thumbnails."
2) You don't have to pay me to see a poem based on a prompt that you gave me. I try to send copies of poems to people, mostly using the LJ message function. (Anonymous prompters will miss this perk unless you give me your eddress.) These are for-your-eyes-only, though, not for sharing.
3) Sponsors of the Poetry Fishbowl in general, or of specific poems, will gain access to an extra post in appreciation of their generosity. While you're on the Donors list, you can view all of the custom-locked posts in that category. Click the "donors" tag to read the archive of those. I've also posted a list of other donor perks there. I customarily leave donor names on the list for two months, so you'll get to see the perk-post from this month and next.
4) After the Poetry Fishbowl concludes, I will post a list of unsold poems and their prices, to make it easier for folks to see what they might want to sponsor.
5) If donations total $100 by Friday evening then you get a free $15 poem; $150 gets you a free $20 poem; and $200 gets you a free epic, posted after the Poetry Fishbowl. These will usually be series poems if I have them; otherwise I may offer non-series poems or series poems in a different size. If donations reach $250, you get one step toward a bonus fishbowl; four of these activates the perk, and they don't have to be four months in a row. Everyone will get to vote on which series, and give prompts during the extra fishbowl, although it may be a half-day rather than a whole day. If donations reach $300, there will be a half-price sale in one series.
Feed the Fish!
Now's your chance to participate in the creative process by posting ideas for me to write about. Today's theme is "Indigenous Cultures." See above for details. If you manage to recommend a form that I don't recognize, I will probably pounce on it and ask you for its rules. I do have The New Book of Forms by Lewis Turco which covers most common and many obscure forms.
I'll post at least one of the fishbowl poems here so you-all can enjoy it. (Remember, you get an extra freebie poem if someone new posts a prompt or makes a donation, and additional perks at $100-$300 in donations. Linkbacks reveal verses of "The Glass Cat." The rest of the poems will go into my archive for future use.
Starting now, the Poetry Fishbowl is open! Today's theme is "Indigenous Cultures." I will be checking this page periodically throughout the day. When people make suggestions, I'll pick some and weave them together into a poem ... and then another ... and so on. I'm hoping to get a lot of ideas and a lot of poems.
I'll be soliciting ideas for tribal people, tribal warriors, two-spirits, medicine people, anthropologists, explorers, world figures, nomads, housemates, communards, superheroes, supervillains, mentors, activists, counselors, other people involved in tribal cultures, drumming (Native American, African), dancing (powwow, aboriginal, haka, folk), praying, bartering, riding horses, building trust, establishing loyalty, creating intimacy, making friends, getting to know each other, growing closer, relying on each other, asking for help and getting it, teaching people, making plans, cooking together, discovering things, troubleshooting, improvising, adapting, cooperating, taking over in an emergency, discovering yourself, studying others, testing boundaries, coming of age, learning what you can (and can't) do, sharing, fixing what's broke, upsetting the status quo, changing the world, accomplishing the impossible, recovering from setbacks, historic tribal ranges, reservations, rancherias, reserves, powwows, sweat lodges, tipis, longhouses, roundhouses, dance halls, sharehouses, museums, schools, clubs, other tribal places, the gift economy, giveaways, ceremonies, buffalo, salmon, the Three Sisters, other Turtle Island foods, tribal breeds of horse or dog or other livestock, tribal cultivars of any crop, "weeds" that are actually the escaped agricultural crops of lost empires (e.g. sunchokes, lamb's quarters), stickball, other traditional games, ceremonial paint (Native American, African, Australian), Hand Talk, regalia, African indigenous vegetables, ancient foodways, oldways heritage diets, food forests, tribal watercraft, family dynamics, dominance theory, partnerships, emotional closeness, first contact, interspecies relationships, trial and error, innovation, loneliness, problems that can't be solved by hitting, teamwork, found family, complementary strengths and weaknesses, personal growth, and poetic forms in particular.
If your identity has not yet been represented, or only done badly, then by all means prompt for it and I'll do my best to fill the gap.
Currently eligible bingo card(s) for donors wishing to sponsor a square:
Fall Festival Bingo Card 10-1-22
Among my more relevant series for the main theme:
The Bear Tunnels is all about time travel to the East Coast just as the American Invasion began, so it focuses on Wampanoag and other tribes in that area.
Beneath the Family Tree is prehistoric fiction about several hominid species living together.
Daughters of the Apocalypse features various tribal peoples including Apache, Blackfeet, Cherokee, and Pueblo.
Kande's Quest draws on African tribal traditions.
Polychrome Heroics has the Iron Horses thread (Blackfeet, Chippewa Cree), Rutledge thread (Abenaki), Shiv thread (Omaha, Winnebago, and others), and sundry mentions including Cherokee, Lakota, and Ojibwe.
The comic strip City Indians runs in the Blue Streak. It features a number of native characters living in River City rather than a reservation. It is drawn by an Osage and written by a Missourian, and they get their inspiration from contemporary issues facing tribal people. It focuses on changes over time and how people adapt to those -- or don't. Sometimes the comic strip is irreverent, but it is always relevant. It has been syndicated in Wasape, a small town near Bluehill.
Schrodinger's Heroes includes Ash with Wichita and Dinè (Navajo) heritage.
Strike of the Thunderbirds is alternate history where the people of the Americas invade Europe.
Or you can ask for something new.
I have a linkback poem, "The Glass Cat" (7 verses, Arts and Crafts America).
What Is a Poetry Fishbowl?
Writing is usually considered a solitary pursuit. One exception to this is a fascinating exercise called a "fishbowl." This has various forms, but all of them basically involve some kind of writing in public, usually with interaction between author and audience. A famous example is Harlan Ellison's series of "stories under glass" in which he sits in a bookstore window and writes a new story based on an idea that someone gives him. Writing classes sometimes include a version where students watch each other write, often with students calling out suggestions which are chalked up on the blackboard for those writing to use as inspiration.
In this online version of a Poetry Fishbowl, I begin by setting a theme; today's theme is "Indigenous Cultures." I invite people to suggest characters, settings, and other things relating to that theme. Then I use those prompts as inspiration for writing poems.
Cyberfunded Creativity
I'm practicing cyberfunded creativity. If you enjoy what I'm doing and want to see more of it, please feed the Bard. The following options are currently available:
1) Sponsor the Fishbowl -- Here is a PayPal button for donations. There is no specific requirement, but $1 is the minimum recommended size for PayPal transactions since they take a cut from every one. You can also donate via check or money order sent by postal mail. If you make a donation and tell me about it, I promise to use one of your prompts. Anonymous donations are perfectly welcome, just won't get that perk. General donations will be tallied, and at the end of the fishbowl I’ll post a list of eligible poems based on the total funding; then the audience can vote on which they want to see posted.
2) Swim, Fishie, Swim! -- A feature in conjunction with fishbowl sponsorship is this progress meter showing the amount donated. There are multiple perks, the top one being a half-price poetry sale on one series when donations reach $300.

3) Buy It Now! -- Gakked from various e-auction sites, this feature allows you to sponsor a specific poem. If you don't want to wait for some editor to buy and publish my poem so you can read it, well, now you don't have to. Sponsoring a poem means that I will immediately post it on my blog for everyone to see, with the name of the sponsor (or another dedicate) if you wish; plus you get a nonexclusive publication right, so you can post it on your own blog or elsewhere as long as you keep the credits intact. You'll need to tell me the title of the poem you want to sponsor. I'm basing the prices on length, and they're comparable to what I typically make selling poetry to magazines (semi-pro rates according to Duotrope's Digest).
0-10 lines: $5
11-25 lines: $10
26-40 lines: $15
41-60 lines: $20
Poems over 60 lines, or with very intricate structure, fall into custom pricing.
4) Commission a scrapbook page. I can render a chosen poem in hardcopy format, on colorful paper, using archival materials for background and any embellishments. This will be suitable for framing or for adding to a scrapbook. Commission details are here. See latest photos of sample scrapbooked poems: "Sample Scrapbooked Poems 1-24-11"
5) Spread the word. Echo or link to this post on your Dreamwidth, other blog, Twitter, Facebook, Digg, StumbleUpon, or any other social network. Useful Twitter hashtags include #poetryfishbowl and #promptcall. Encourage people to come here and participate in the fishbowl. If you have room for it, including your own prompt will give your readers an idea of what the prompts should look like; ideally, update later to include the thumbnail of the poem I write, and a link to the poem if it gets published. If there is at least one new prompter or donor, I will post an extra freebie poem.
Linkback perk: I have a spare series poem available, and each linkback will reveal a verse of the poem. One person can do multiple links if they're on different services, like Dreamwidth or Twitter, rather than all on LiveJournal. Comment with a link to where you posted. "The Glass Cat" has 7 verses and belongs to Arts and Crafts America.
Additional Notes
1) I customarily post replies to prompt posts telling people which of their prompts I'm using, with a brief description of the resulting poem(s). If you want to know what's available, watch for those "thumbnails."
2) You don't have to pay me to see a poem based on a prompt that you gave me. I try to send copies of poems to people, mostly using the LJ message function. (Anonymous prompters will miss this perk unless you give me your eddress.) These are for-your-eyes-only, though, not for sharing.
3) Sponsors of the Poetry Fishbowl in general, or of specific poems, will gain access to an extra post in appreciation of their generosity. While you're on the Donors list, you can view all of the custom-locked posts in that category. Click the "donors" tag to read the archive of those. I've also posted a list of other donor perks there. I customarily leave donor names on the list for two months, so you'll get to see the perk-post from this month and next.
4) After the Poetry Fishbowl concludes, I will post a list of unsold poems and their prices, to make it easier for folks to see what they might want to sponsor.
5) If donations total $100 by Friday evening then you get a free $15 poem; $150 gets you a free $20 poem; and $200 gets you a free epic, posted after the Poetry Fishbowl. These will usually be series poems if I have them; otherwise I may offer non-series poems or series poems in a different size. If donations reach $250, you get one step toward a bonus fishbowl; four of these activates the perk, and they don't have to be four months in a row. Everyone will get to vote on which series, and give prompts during the extra fishbowl, although it may be a half-day rather than a whole day. If donations reach $300, there will be a half-price sale in one series.
Feed the Fish!
Now's your chance to participate in the creative process by posting ideas for me to write about. Today's theme is "Indigenous Cultures." See above for details. If you manage to recommend a form that I don't recognize, I will probably pounce on it and ask you for its rules. I do have The New Book of Forms by Lewis Turco which covers most common and many obscure forms.
I'll post at least one of the fishbowl poems here so you-all can enjoy it. (Remember, you get an extra freebie poem if someone new posts a prompt or makes a donation, and additional perks at $100-$300 in donations. Linkbacks reveal verses of "The Glass Cat." The rest of the poems will go into my archive for future use.
Prompt
Date: 2022-10-04 05:55 pm (UTC)Re: Prompt
Date: 2022-10-04 11:54 pm (UTC)- See_Also_Friend
Re: Prompt
Date: 2022-10-09 10:16 am (UTC)880 lines, Buy It Now = $440
Re: Prompt
Date: 2022-10-09 10:16 am (UTC)880 lines, Buy It Now = $440
Prompt
Date: 2022-10-04 06:12 pm (UTC)Re: Prompt
Date: 2022-10-10 06:08 am (UTC)272 lines, Buy It Now = $136
(no subject)
Date: 2022-10-04 06:27 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-10-04 07:31 pm (UTC)Poem
Date: 2022-10-05 08:07 am (UTC)371 lines, Buy It Now = $186
(no subject)
Date: 2022-10-04 06:37 pm (UTC)Anything about Australian aboriginal cultures.
Seafaring/wayfinding Indigenous cultures, and all that goes into navigation over water. I think someone found an article on that but it'll take me a while to locate it if that was a local source.
The significance of spirals and cyclical paths.
Native foods and plants: topics of, gardening with, making food forests.
Weeds versus foraged foods.
Learning to recognise plants, what they mean in an area, and what they can be used for.
Evolution of agriculture and culinary fields when new plants/food sources are introduced to a place, or old ingredients are restricted. I remember you mentioned something related about hoecakes and frybread...?
When you are in an entirely new setting (continent, planet, terrestrial/aquatic/aerial environment whatever), how do you figure out what's safe to eat?
... Definitely not safe to eat?
... And how to not fuck up the ecosystem?
And the loss of indigenous identity, history, religion, and culture when 'dominant' cultures spread/invade a place. Locals forget that Europeans had their own indigenous religions, histories, and cultural identities before Christianity became a pandemic. Some people refer to that as a "Tragedy of the Conquerors" - they lost their heritage before they started destroying other people's.
... And you know the preference on this side for non-fiction, history (locally "alternative history" or not), and nature as a focus.
- Elijah (he/him)
Poem
Date: 2022-10-04 07:40 pm (UTC)63 lines, Buy It Now = $32
(no subject)
Date: 2022-10-05 12:37 am (UTC)You might find this fanfic interesting:
The Wandering Years - leradny https://archiveofourown.org/works/11003556/chapters/25792641#workskin
It might not all be scientifically accurate, but I found it to be very interesting.
>>And the loss of indigenous identity, history, religion, and culture when 'dominant' cultures spread/invade a place. Locals forget that Europeans had their own indigenous religions, histories, and cultural identities before Christianity became a pandemic. Some people refer to that as a "Tragedy of the Conquerors" - they lost their heritage before they started destroying other people's.<<
Hmm, I wonder how Christianity might have turned out if it hadn't emerged in the middle of a conquering state. There was that whole bit about shaking the dust off one's feet...
- See_Also_Friend
Poem
Date: 2022-10-04 08:33 pm (UTC)Hold for original prompter.
(no subject)
Date: 2022-10-04 08:57 pm (UTC)A Potawatomi elder had died. After her memorial, at the wake, her family and the medicine man moved into the living room for a private pipe circle. A woman who was close to them (she'd given the eulogy), but unquestionably European, put herself in the kitchen doorway so that they wouldn't be interrupted. A minute or so later, the medicine man came out and said "are you coming?" She responded that she did not want to push herself into their ceremony. "But you are a medicine woman among your own people, aren't you?" he asked. She looked a little startled, said something along the lines of "I didn't know it showed", and joined the pipe circle.
Reclaiming culture
More of Shiv with the Omaha. That he was given a Name the first day he showed up makes a deeper relationship seem likely to develop. He is indeed a "Little Lynx".
Poem
Date: 2022-10-09 10:17 am (UTC)880 lines, Buy It Now = $440
(no subject)
Date: 2022-10-04 09:39 pm (UTC)Also it's a long one but this video is an interview with an indigenous dressmaker and the interviewer is a historical sewer. Not sure if it works for a prompt but its interesting even for a basic sewer like myself.
https://youtu.be/xNRECw-Pxr8
Poem
Date: 2022-10-09 10:17 am (UTC)880 lines, Buy It Now = $440
(no subject)
Date: 2022-10-04 09:42 pm (UTC)I have an idea.. although it needs a bit of context. So, I am demonstrably descended from Vikings, as in literally my family can trace our ancestry back to around 630AD and three brothers who came over from 'the lands of the Fjords' and settled, A farmer/trader, a mercenary and a Skald.
Thing is.. modern media always portray vikings as warriors, and forget that there were more traders than 'vikings' (which is more a word for what they were doing, not a name) as contemporary accounts were written by Christian monks who were more than a little biased. We get the shitty end of that stick, and Norse culture is badly maligned. (and don't even get me started on the racist 'reconstructionist' lot!)
So... how about readdressing this? Something like the Bear tunnels perhaps, but with the old Norse vs the Cross worshipers.
(no subject)
Date: 2022-10-05 12:05 am (UTC)Anyway! Part of the comic is the Nordic countries essentially reverting to Schizo Tech and bringing back pre-Christian religion. And Sigrid is basically a post-apocalyptic Viking shieldmaiden, if the term can apply to a zombie fighter instead of a seafaring raider.
Oh, and one more warning: do not wander into the linked Bunny Comic, unless you are okay with very heavy/pushy Christian conversion messages. (I thought there were some interesting points discussed, but a lot of other people got triggered by it.)
- See_Also_Friend
(no subject)
Date: 2022-10-05 12:31 am (UTC)A Retail's Dream is okay too. Older comic by the same person.
- Quillon (he/him)
Poem
Date: 2022-10-05 01:21 am (UTC)163 lines, Buy It Now = $82
(no subject)
Date: 2022-10-05 12:05 am (UTC)Poem
Date: 2022-10-09 10:17 am (UTC)880 lines, Buy It Now = $440
(no subject)
Date: 2022-10-05 12:11 am (UTC)I wanna see Kenzie makin' friends in othah tribes, or gettin' closer wi'someone in his own.-Jay
Somethin' in Schrodinger's heroes-intimacy between two people who ain't usually like. It be a long time since we seen anythin' of'em, and I miss'em.-Craimar
Poem
Date: 2022-10-09 10:17 am (UTC)880 lines, Buy It Now = $440
(no subject)
Date: 2022-10-05 12:29 am (UTC)...also, are traditionally nomadic peoples more likely to have Teleportation powers?
Talking Drums https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talking_drum
I remember some discussion of using talking drums as prosthetic speech devices to help humans talk with elephants. That was, DOA, I believe, but it could also work with Hercules over in Terramagne.
This: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20180926-akashinga-all-women-rangers-in-africa-fighting-poaching
Indigenous technology that is not recognized as technology (basically anything that doesn't look like the European idea of technology - farming, fishing gear, etc).
Something about European colonials that ran away to join the Native American communities - I think this would fit the Bear Tunnels.
Kande's Quest was interesting, and it would be nice to see a new story.
Re: prehistoric peoples, there are a lot of stories where people try to bring back extinct species, and some of your settings have intelligent life of different species (cetaceans and elephants, as well as humans) that could incubate the younglings. A story discussing bringing back mammoths or Yahtzee River dolphins or homo florensis could be interesting, even if they never got to the point of actually producing a viable youngling.
Some of Steel and Moderato's quarrels about tool use remind me of assimilation arguments in minority ethnic groups. That said, would anyone ever hassle Aida, either a human (for hanging out with dolphins) or cetaceans (for being a human, who is also unable to even speak correctly.*)
*I think there was a discussion somewhere where it was pointed out that any human would be unable to fluently speak cetacean languages without some serious adaptive equipment or a Translator Buddy, due in part to the fact that humans literally cannot perceive half the means of communication by themselves.
I found an article suggesting that pictograms were actually the first form of writing for Handtalk (couldn't find the link again, sorry). If true, this would be the first known record of a written sign language in history. I do still have this link, for a different form of written PIS:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plains_Indian_Sign_Language#Writing
Cross-cultural friendship. I think Saul and Warshirt were heading that way. How much prior experience does Warshirt have with younger female relatives anyway? I don't recall if he has a sister, or younger female cousins he'd ever lived with. Meanwhile Saul grew up with a sister and currently has a heart-sister and daughter. And I still think they'd make a pretty good team at solving some problems.
Rutlidge thread - how do the refugees get along with the local First Nations folks?
Any variation of "this person isn't an outsider, they're with me."
-See_Also_Friend
(no subject)
Date: 2022-10-05 12:32 am (UTC)https://mjhnyc.org/blog/intersections-of-identity-the-jewish-indigenous-experience/
There's a rabbi too who has studied with indigenous peoples: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gershon_Winkler and his organization website: https://www.walkingstick.org/
https://www.academia.edu/24324286/American_Metaphysical_Judaism_Rabbi_and_Shaman_Gershon_Winkler
And Reb Zalman who I mention frequently as the founder of mystical Judaism aka Jewish Renewal, with a medicine man blowing the shofar: https://havurahshirhadash.org/the-shaman-blows-the-shofar/ It's Yom Kippur time to make a true atonement and restorative justice for all done wrong between people.
Poem
Date: 2022-10-10 06:09 am (UTC)272 lines, Buy It Now = $136
(no subject)
Date: 2022-10-05 12:32 am (UTC)- See_ Also_Friend
Prompt
Date: 2022-10-05 01:02 am (UTC)Also, do you have anything relating to Mesoamerican or South American indigenous cultures?
Re: Prompt
Date: 2022-10-05 01:15 am (UTC)And as with anything dealing with American history, warnings for racism and other such unpleasantness in the following two links:
From Real Life, see the Blac Seminoles.
https://www.thoughtco.com/black-seminoles-4154463#:~:text=The%20Black%20Seminoles%20were%20given%20an%20official%20tribal,to%20separate%20themselves%20from%20their%20previous%20Black%20allies.
History of the term estelusti:
https://scrankin.com/estelusti-the-oklahoma-freedmen/
...and I think there was something about forced emigrations to clear Ireland for sheep farms, but I couldn't find a reference. There was the infamous Potato Famine, but most of them left willingly, for a given value of willing.
...Geez, history is depressing sometimes.
Prompt: Would it ever make sense for Kenzie to meet Turqu's cohort? They all seem to have similar shifter powers.
Actually, how would a meeting between Kenzie and other primal soups go? like Spotted Deer and her cohort?
Re: Prompt
Date: 2022-10-05 01:15 am (UTC)Re: Prompt
Date: 2022-10-05 03:43 am (UTC)Re: Prompt
Date: 2022-10-05 04:31 am (UTC)Of course, I never formally studied Native American history, and I likely know even less about indigenous cultures in the rest of the world.
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Re: Prompt
Date: 2022-10-09 10:18 am (UTC)880 lines, Buy It Now = $440
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Date: 2022-10-05 03:06 am (UTC)For example, the whole idea of forgetting what someone looks like after you lose them has never resonated with me, and in fact if I don't see someone for a long time I will forget to miss them. I will have lost the emotional sense of them, although if I think about it or am reminded I might know that I enjoy their company and would be happy if I saw then. If I am not reminded, I just won't remember that I would like to see them. This, as you might imagine, makes long distance relationships difficult (but may make death easier? Hard to say), although I wonder if someone who has been tightly entangled for years might be missed because of the lost external brain. It's why I try to keep a list of people who I would always like to see, so when there is an opportunity and I have space or need to see people, I have a list of who to ping. (Given that even before the pandemic I would mostly drop out off sight every winter due to seasonal depression, you might imagine what the pandemic has done to my social connections)
The closest thing I have to an imagination/memory that is not information/conceptual is that I know where things are as if I am reaching for then if it's a space I know well. I also know movement - particular motions, gestures, large body movements that someone might make - and indeed that is the only way I can imagine people in my head.
Another thing I wondered was if it was possible to accidentally time travel depending on how one is focusing on a place. If the focus includes a time component (like it's nighttime, or snowy, or some other temporal indicator), would that potentially result in the teleport occurring during the relevant time regardless of the current time of day/year?
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Date: 2022-10-05 04:44 am (UTC)https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proprioception
I imagine if you were a teleporter, you would either know the place like you know where things you've just put down are. Or perhaps a map like setting a story in ASL, or a tactile map like they use with Protactile Sign? (Traditional ASL maps things in space, Protactile on the body.)
https://www.perkins.org/qa-how-pro-tactile-american-sign-language-ptasl-is-changing-the-conversation/
>>Another thing I wondered was if it was possible to accidentally time travel depending on how one is focusing on a place.<<
Happened in Dragonriders of Pern. Someone accidentally hopped to a vivid memory of her childhood. (...and she'd missed out on the standard teleportation training the other trainees got.)
Later they did deliberate jumps across two centuries using a historical tapestry going one way and stars going the other way.
I suspect in most settings, going elsewhen would be a rare skill than just going elsewhere.
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Poem
Date: 2022-10-13 04:29 am (UTC)371 lines, Buy It Now = $186
Re: Poem
Date: 2022-10-13 02:39 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-10-05 07:46 am (UTC)Anything from Bear Tunnels
Poem
Date: 2022-10-15 01:06 am (UTC)294 lines, Buy It Now = $197
Poem
Date: 2022-10-05 09:48 am (UTC)Hold for original prompter.
Done for the night!
Date: 2022-10-05 10:05 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2022-10-05 01:46 pm (UTC)Well ...
Date: 2022-10-05 11:23 pm (UTC)December 6 will be "Nature."
Re: Well ...
Date: 2022-10-06 12:27 am (UTC)Re: Well ...
Date: 2022-10-06 01:25 am (UTC)Poem
Date: 2022-10-26 03:21 am (UTC)"Difficult Roads"
Story Date: Saturday, June 25, 2016
Summary: Warshirt and Spotted Deer are asked to come help victims of human trafficking.
296 lines, Buy It Now = $148
"A Debasement of Our Common Humanity"
Story Date: Saturday, June 25, 2016
Summary: Warshirt and Spotted Deer, along with Kenzie and Ron, do what they can for victims of human trafficking.
1391 lines, Buy It Now = $696
"Monsters Disguised as Men"
Story Date: Sunday, June 26, 2016
Laana Hall talks with Warshirt and Spotted Deer about what she has survived.
238 lines, Buy It Now = $119
Poem
Date: 2022-10-07 07:25 am (UTC)272 lines, Buy It Now = $136