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This article talks about the scarcity of nice places. Some thoughts ...


* Lack of amenities is a real and serious problem. Just as one example, greenspace improves health, but poor neighborhoods have much less of it.

* Gentrification is a real and serious problem. The nicer something is, the more it costs, and that forces out people who can't afford it. This problem is so bad that some cities have basically emptied themselves of poor and middle-class people because it costs so much to live there. Given this, improvements read as threats to home and survival, so that makes people fight them. If they can only afford to live in shitty places, then they must defend the shittiness that makes those places accessible to them, because it deters predatory rich people.

* In order to make improvements without displacing current residents, you have to find ways of blocking the hikes in everything from rent and home prices to costs in local stores and restaurants. This is difficult at best and often impossible. One approach is to make citywide improvements; if all areas have working streetlights or intact sidewalks, then they will be no financial distinction because of their presence or lack.

* The article's suggestion that we build lots of nice things and places is valid in that this would reduce competition and thus prices. Building new ones is good. So is revitalizing nearly empty old ones. It's when you try to improve shitty places where all the poor people have crowded in for lack of better options that you run into serious problems. So cities also need to build lots of new affordable housing -- about three times what we currently have in order to cover the demand.

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Date: 2021-11-18 12:50 am (UTC)
siliconshaman: black cat against the moon (Default)
From: [personal profile] siliconshaman

Thing is, adding extra amenities and generally improving crappy neighborhoods costs money... costs which get passed along to the house buyers, thus pricing the nicer areas out of reach of a lot of people. Which means those that can't afford the house prices, end up in other, different, shitty neighborhoods.

Shittiness is a lot like entropy, you can't get rid of it, just move it around.

The only real way to overcome the problem of crappy neighborhoods is to increase the general wealth of the population, thus increasing the resources (through taxation) to make less crappy residential areas.

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Date: 2021-11-18 01:57 am (UTC)
siliconshaman: black cat against the moon (Default)
From: [personal profile] siliconshaman

Hmm.. and now I'm thinking of "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas"... there is a parallel to be drawn here thinking about it.

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Date: 2021-11-18 02:30 am (UTC)
siliconshaman: black cat against the moon (Default)
From: [personal profile] siliconshaman

Funny, that was my thought as well...

Now, consider that in relation to the problem of nicer neighborhoods and how they perpetuate the system of inequality.

Re: Thoughts

Date: 2021-11-18 06:45 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] acelightning73
I would like to see someone base a community on the principle of "Thine alabaster cities gleam, Undimmed by human tears..."

I have always wished that there could be some way I could live in the top of the Empire State Building. Now there are very tall apartment/condo buildings going up all along 57th street (Billionaires' Row). There's one building referred to as the Sliver, beccause it tapers inward at the top in order to satisfy zoning regulations. It's also called Steinway Tower, because it was permitted because the builders bought the air rights above the old Steinway Building, across the street from Carnegie Hall. Now, I'm not the mistress of an oil sheik from the Emirates, so I can't afford one of those apartments.

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Date: 2021-11-18 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Ancient Roman's painted their concrete. Really pretty, too.

Also see the murals in Philadelphia.

Re: Thoughts

Date: 2021-11-18 06:31 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] acelightning73
My response to the situation in the story would be to figure out why the magic needs someone to be in misery, and couldn't we figure out how to power the spell with something like sex energy - if the entire city is engaging in orgiastic sex as often as possible, wouldn't that work?

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Date: 2021-11-18 06:58 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] acelightning73
I was taught, very early in my Wiccan training, that one can use BDSM techniques to raise power for a magical working, or one can simply resort to blood sacrifice and use the departing life energy to power the spell. But I was also taught that for smaller workings, you could raise enough power by ecstatic dancing, sex magick (which can be performed alone, never mind orgies), choral singing, and even drugs. (Think of the legends about how the Witches of the British Isles kept the Spanish Armada away from the beaches of England, and magically prevented Hitler from invading, and how some of the older Witches deliberately gave up their lives in arduous working (often performed outdoors, skyclad, in typical English weather) in order to make the magic as powerful as possible. It worked, in both cases.
Edited Date: 2021-11-18 07:00 am (UTC)

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Date: 2021-11-18 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
My take a third option suggestion : remember that story about the guy who traveled across the border every day with saddlebags full of hay? And it turns out he was smuggling donkeys? (Or a kid with bikes, or a guy with a wheelbarrow of rubbish...)

Take the city 'away' one bit at a time. Ask the emigrants to smuggle bricks out in their bags.

It'll take longer, but it'll be less noticable, make the bad cost seamless worth it, and you wont have people in favor of the system calling you "violent, destructive [slur]s."*

*Seriously, I've been trying to soften some aquaintences' attitudes towards recent social movements, and the biggest/most effective counterargument is "I'm not supporting vandals/arsonists!"

Re: Thoughts

Date: 2021-11-18 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
>>...Some people have walked away from cities...<<

Idea: Is there a way for regular people to build affordable housing? Crowdfunding perhaps?

A buy-by-paying-rent development that allows farm animals and gardens while being decinly-sized for human life would be awesome.

Someplace more populated could maybe do this with apartment buildings, too. Crowdfund, buy the building from the slumlord, fix it up, set up a resident's association, and have people 'buy' the apartment for keeps with regular rent payments.

You could even combine the idea with that college student and immigrant housing they tried in, Finland, I think. Or adjust it for different demographics in your area.

Also, one could keep the value low by designing undesirable features...like a scruffy native-plant lawn, or encouraging people to dry their laundry in the front yard.

Criticism and suggestions?

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