Water issues were /definitely/ on the list of reasons why we chose to move to the northeast instead of nearly anywhere else.
I would not be surprised if upstate New York and similar areas become more popular destinations as things continue to shift. Certainly there are plenty of old mill towns and such that could be revived with an influx of population.
>> Water issues were /definitely/ on the list of reasons why we chose to move to the northeast instead of nearly anywhere else.<<
Very astute. It's among the better places.
>> I would not be surprised if upstate New York and similar areas become more popular destinations as things continue to shift. <<
That and farther north, yes.
>>Certainly there are plenty of old mill towns and such that could be revived with an influx of population.<<
Also they have lots of rural areas that people are still draining out of because they're short-sighted. It's a great time to get in before the crowd notices.
Cuba would like to chime in there... They've found that latex from rubber trees can be used to reboot old tires, and a lot of those old style 50's and 60's cars are kept running through sheer ingenuity and parts that were never meant to go together.
Hear, hear! Older cars that were made to be maintained can be kept going for quite some time with ingenuity and careful maintenance.
I also heard a story once of someone who'd been traveling through... Afghanistan maybe? by car, some time ago. The roads were not in good repair and something happened to their suspension. This was apparently enough of an expected thing that they were able to find a couple guys with welding gear who served them tea and then sorted out the car while they were drinking it.
You can do that with old things that were designed to be repaired, back before planned obsolescence made almost everything flimsy, before black-box technology turned cars into computers with wheels. I miss that kind of stuff.
Things that come out now, less and less appeals to me. Every once in a while, I find something awesome, like the frictionless pancake bowl. But the last two new fabrics I liked both turned out bad. Tencel is wonderfully soft, but turns me into a walking dustcatcher. Last winter's fuzzy fabric is delightful to wear, but sheds abominably in the laundry, and I feel bad about putting all those microfibers into the environment.
Growth ponzi scheme is an excellent way to describing far to much about US (and to an extent worldwide) capitalism. Also, wow, stealing water from the Great Lakes to keep Arizona swimming pools topped up and lawns watered is bizarre and terrible. I remember driving through Nevada in the early 90s - passing through the outskirts of Las Vegas in early August (while frantically hoping our moving van wouldn't boil over when we climbed even low hills), and passing sod farms with overhead central pivot irrigation. It looked like Egypt in miniature and circular - there was a circle of sod, surrounded by white sand, and it was clear that if the water ever turned off the sod would be dead within an hour or two. I don't expect Las Vegas and Phoenix (a city that I remember primarily as being home to used car lots and pest control agencies) likely won't exist in 30 years because climate change will render them completely uninhabitable.
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Date: 2020-09-25 09:54 pm (UTC)And this is how the water wars will begin...
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Date: 2020-09-25 11:36 pm (UTC)I would not be surprised if upstate New York and similar areas become more popular destinations as things continue to shift. Certainly there are plenty of old mill towns and such that could be revived with an influx of population.
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Date: 2020-09-26 01:05 am (UTC)Very astute. It's among the better places.
>> I would not be surprised if upstate New York and similar areas become more popular destinations as things continue to shift. <<
That and farther north, yes.
>>Certainly there are plenty of old mill towns and such that could be revived with an influx of population.<<
Also they have lots of rural areas that people are still draining out of because they're short-sighted. It's a great time to get in before the crowd notices.
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Date: 2020-09-26 12:23 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2020-09-26 02:41 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2020-09-26 04:35 am (UTC)More like Fury Feet, or Fury Camels. Well, we'd have to import camels too...
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Date: 2020-09-26 04:43 am (UTC)Well ...
Date: 2020-09-26 05:08 am (UTC)In the short to medium run, you'd be surprised how long scavengers can keep things going at a piss-poor level of development.
Examples: much of Africa. I'm not joking. They have gas thieves and road bandits. Some of those countries have basically been in ruins for decades.
Re: Well ...
Date: 2020-09-26 09:07 am (UTC)Cuba would like to chime in there... They've found that latex from rubber trees can be used to reboot old tires, and a lot of those old style 50's and 60's cars are kept running through sheer ingenuity and parts that were never meant to go together.
Re: Well ...
Date: 2020-09-27 06:31 pm (UTC)I also heard a story once of someone who'd been traveling through... Afghanistan maybe? by car, some time ago. The roads were not in good repair and something happened to their suspension. This was apparently enough of an expected thing that they were able to find a couple guys with welding gear who served them tea and then sorted out the car while they were drinking it.
Re: Well ...
Date: 2020-09-28 05:24 am (UTC)Things that come out now, less and less appeals to me. Every once in a while, I find something awesome, like the frictionless pancake bowl. But the last two new fabrics I liked both turned out bad. Tencel is wonderfully soft, but turns me into a walking dustcatcher. Last winter's fuzzy fabric is delightful to wear, but sheds abominably in the laundry, and I feel bad about putting all those microfibers into the environment.
Yes ...
Date: 2020-09-26 05:06 am (UTC)2) Evidently there are already gas thieves and roving bands of road warriors. These are clear markers of apocalyptic or post-apocalyptic societies.
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Date: 2020-09-26 05:52 am (UTC)