Autism and Fevers
Dec. 11th, 2019 03:46 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ysabetwordsmithThis study suggests a link between autism and fevers during pregnancy. While there are many possible triggers, this is the first I've seen mentioned of fevers.
What snagged my attention is that this could be a temperature-related effect. (It could also be triggered by immune response, but this seems less likely given that ibuprofen seemed to avoid it.) If the trigger is activated by temperature, then higher environmental temperatures could produce the same outcome. Environmental temperatures are rising; autism rates are rising. This makes me wonder what autism rates would look like if mapped against global temperatures and the availability of air conditioning.
Then I wonder if people with autism are better, the same, or worse equipped to deal with environmental stressors such as excessive heat. That is, could this be an adaptive response, or is it simply a result of high temperatures during pregnancy?
Another factor, not mentioned in the article, is that this could be a vaccine link that nobody's noticed yet. Pregnant women are nagged to take vaccines, but the most common result of that is ... running a fever for several days as the body tries to kill it with fire. If running a fever while pregnant can affect the baby, in this or other ways, then people might want to reconsider that advice or at least equip more informed consent regarding the pros and cons. Not like medics give a flying fuck about informed consent, or women, but it's a nice fantasy.
What snagged my attention is that this could be a temperature-related effect. (It could also be triggered by immune response, but this seems less likely given that ibuprofen seemed to avoid it.) If the trigger is activated by temperature, then higher environmental temperatures could produce the same outcome. Environmental temperatures are rising; autism rates are rising. This makes me wonder what autism rates would look like if mapped against global temperatures and the availability of air conditioning.
Then I wonder if people with autism are better, the same, or worse equipped to deal with environmental stressors such as excessive heat. That is, could this be an adaptive response, or is it simply a result of high temperatures during pregnancy?
Another factor, not mentioned in the article, is that this could be a vaccine link that nobody's noticed yet. Pregnant women are nagged to take vaccines, but the most common result of that is ... running a fever for several days as the body tries to kill it with fire. If running a fever while pregnant can affect the baby, in this or other ways, then people might want to reconsider that advice or at least equip more informed consent regarding the pros and cons. Not like medics give a flying fuck about informed consent, or women, but it's a nice fantasy.
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Date: 2019-12-11 10:48 pm (UTC)I'd love to see anti-vacxxers fall over their shit to validate their arguments with this piece of news.
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Sorry, I'm all about vaccinations. Maybe I'd be one of those to wait until they're two, but after that? Game the fuck on.
-T~
Well ...
Date: 2019-12-11 10:57 pm (UTC)They're also grossly misrepresented. The public thinks that vaccines protect from disease. They don't. What they do is improve your odds. Sometimes that improvement is large, but other times it's small. Consider that the flu vaccine is only about 33% effective in a good year. In a bad year it's completely useless. Every time you take a vaccine, you risk crippling injury or death. The risk is small, but the numbers of people are large, which means society chooses to murder a few in hopes of saving others. But some people don't wish to participate, and others think they have a right to force them, which leads to very bad places. Just to name one: if the government can force you to have a vaccine, it can forbid you to have one.
Another problem is that the complications are routinely and vehemently hidden. The fever issue is just one possibility, and indeed, autism is only one possible effect if fever during pregnancy disrupts delicate brain development. Likely there would be many others, so I'd love to see a study of other things such as cerebral palsy to see if they also correlate.
Vaccines can be useful. But America is being very careless and tyrannical in ways that are causing people to resist. That will ultimately do a lot more harm than good.
Re: Well ...
Date: 2019-12-12 01:01 am (UTC)The other question - how damaging would pandemic diseases be without vaccines? Before vaccines people could either try to create immunity by childhood exposure or quarantine infected persons, both of which (I think) are usually more dangerous than vaccinations. One quarantine procedure involved /boarding up the house with everyone inside/ and /posting armed gaurds/ until the house had been disease free for at least a few weeks.
I think people should be able to choose for themselves whether or not to take vaccinations. However, some activities may be restricted to non-vaccinated persons (ie treating infectious patients, and some forms of travel should maybe require quarantines). And I think it is F-ing STUPID and DANGEROUS to lie about your vaccination status.