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We went to see The House with the Clock in Its Walls. It's a great movie if you like the kiddie genre of creepy movies. Great special effects. Some pretty clever magical stuff. The level of violence is stylized, spooky slapstick and crude juvenile humor. Hilarious banter between characters. They actively celebrate weirdness and negotiate its relation to wider society.  Now on to the really good stuff, which contains some spoilers ...


What really stole my heart, though, is the relationship dynamics. Two relationships that would typically be pitched as romantic were explicitly and canonically declared as platonic with "no kissyface stuff." Those are Jonathan Barnavelt & Florence Zimmerman, and Lewis Barnavelt & Rose Rita Pottinger. The nature of the relationships, including the kiddie courtship gestures, are also explictly platonic. While not explicitly cited as sapiosexual, all the hallmarks for that are in there too, and Jonathan quite admiringly describes Florence as "smart." It's adorable. There's a past platonic relationship between Jonathan Barnavelt and Isaac Izard. Also the House likes Lewis, which can reasonably be considered a human/nonhuman platonic relationship. There's an attempted friendship between Lewis Barnavelt and Tarby Corrigan, which falls apart. The only active hetero sexual/romantic relationship is between Isaac and Serena Izard, who are evil but seem to have quite a happy marriage. Past references are made to Jonathan's parents, Lewis' parents, and Florence's husband and daughter -- all probably hetero sexual/romantic. But the main emphasis is on the platonic relationships, and several of the characters have gone through more than one primary relationship of completely different types. If you add it all up, the platonic ones actually outweigh the sexual/romantic ones, especially if you look at current rather than past examples. As a bonus, the inevitable demise of the villains doesn't cut out the only platonic relationship because there are other current ones, not just the past Jonathan & Isaac one.

Also amusing: Florence's signature color is purple. Her past relationship is not covered in exhaustive detail. So if you wanted to, you could interpret it as an ace couple who got together because they wanted kids, which is a thing that happens. No bending of stipulated details required, just filling in the blanks a different way. I hold that her signature color, coupled with the platonic specification, makes this particularly plausible.

If you want to know what the relationship dynamics of a Terramagne movie would look like, that's pretty much it. And if you're looking for a movie that has sweet relationships without the presumption of allo sexual/romantic normativity, here it is. Highly recommended.

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Date: 2018-10-09 12:24 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] siliconshaman
My daughter, who is very much ace.. was rather taken with the trailers. She'll be glad to know there's none of the 'kissyface stuff' in it!!

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Date: 2018-10-09 01:33 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bairnsidhe
Also, I loved how they handled Florence's backstory. The detail of her tattoo is slipped in so subtly, that if a kid who wasn't ready to learn that history was watching, they wouldn't ask, but a kid who was, will. And it utterly demolished my own feels, in a good way.

As another color symbolism, at the end, when Louis proposes flocking to Florence, the colors of swans are black and purple. My a/demi spec heart went pitter pat. Also, I love that there was a flocking proposal at all. Yes, let's ask people to be family, even outside of marriage things!

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Date: 2018-10-09 02:46 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] elinox
I hadn't considered this angle of the movie, and I liked it. With your points, I realize I like it even more now. Not forcing in romance for the sake of romance is a nice change!

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Date: 2018-10-09 02:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thewayne
We saw it over the weekend and enjoyed it. I rather thought the bad guy looked like Stephen Colbert, then when the actor's name came up in the credits I immediately flashed on Dune, don't ask me why. My wife was immediately struck with disbelief until she found it in IMDB.

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Date: 2018-10-10 12:47 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zeeth_kyrah
I saw a trailer for this movie, and would love to watch it sometime. If nothing else, I'll put it on the list of movies to watch in the afterlife, since Dream told me that it's right up my alley.

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