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This is the freebie for the February [community profile] crowdfunding Creative Jam. It was inspired by a prompt from [personal profile] freshbakedlady. It also fills the "yummy" square in my 1-31-18 You Are card for the Valentines Bingo fest.

"Interspecies Relationships"

When the world was younger,
humans wandered the land
looking for companionship.

Sometimes they found it in
each other, sometimes in others.

A few wolves crept out of the woods
and, daring to make themselves
vulnerable, became dogs.

Man and dog hunted
together, and it was yummy.

Women, chasing the rats
away from the food supply,
smiled at the wild cats.

The cats were more interested
in the rats than in companionship,
but they stuck around for the food.

Dog is man's best friend, bound
to us by a deep tie of trust, and they
would no longer thrive without us.

Cats, though? They like
to keep their options open.

* * *


Domestication is a process in which humans change animals. But it doesn't always work the same way.

Dogs were domesticated first as hunting companions. This gives them a strong sense of attachment to humans.

Cats, on the other hand, largely domesticated themselves. This makes them an outlier among domestic animals, very little different from their wild relatives.

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Date: 2018-02-17 09:01 pm (UTC)
thnidu: our cat (Ista)
From: [personal profile] thnidu
Hah! Cats domesticated us!


Date: 2018-02-17 09:18 pm (UTC)
dialecticdreamer: My work (Default)
From: [personal profile] dialecticdreamer
As the staff for a cat committee of two, yeah, they're absolutely the ones in charge.

Re: Agreed

Date: 2018-02-18 02:29 am (UTC)
kengr: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kengr
Track down Leslie Fish's posts about her cats which have now reached the stage of being officially recognized as an "experimental" breed.

The "founder" of the line invented the lever on his own. Really.

Later the cats planned and executed an ambush to decimate a flock of birds that was giving them problems.

She notes that they seem to be at least as smart as a child, but lack symbolic elements in their language.

They also have thumbs...

"I for one, welcome our new feline overlords..."

Re: Yes ...

Date: 2018-02-17 10:33 pm (UTC)
thnidu: our cat (Ista)
From: [personal profile] thnidu
'Zat a quote? It sounds very familiar.

Re: Yes ...

Date: 2018-02-18 10:01 pm (UTC)
mdlbear: the positively imaginary half of a cubic mandelbrot set (Default)
From: [personal profile] mdlbear
I've seen a couple of references attributing it to Terry Pratchett, e.g. Goodreads: Quote by Terry Pratchett: “In ancient times cats were worshipped as gods; ...”

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Date: 2018-02-17 10:35 pm (UTC)
thnidu: glowing light bulb. tinyurl.com/33j2v8h (light bulb)
From: [personal profile] thnidu
This post reminded me to put up something I saw and prepared about a week ago, here.
Edited Date: 2018-02-17 10:56 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2018-02-18 12:45 pm (UTC)
siliconshaman: black cat against the moon (Default)
From: [personal profile] siliconshaman
There is some debate as to when cats were domesticated. It seems to have happened at least three times, and the modern feline is the result of a hybrid of all three. But the earliest event we have definite evidence for either pre-dates, or happened at the same time as dogs were domesticated, roughly 15,000 years ago +/- 3,000 years. [there is some disputed evidence for an earlier third domestication event of cats, ~80,000 years ago.]

It is worth noting however, that without cats, one cannot successfully store grain, and without agriculture and grain stores, wide-scale civilisation is not possible. Ergo, domestication of cats must have been a pre-cursor to settled civilisation.

It's an excellent poem, and encapsulates what happened nicely.

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Date: 2018-02-18 06:31 pm (UTC)
mdlbear: the positively imaginary half of a cubic mandelbrot set (Default)
From: [personal profile] mdlbear
>>Ergo, domestication of cats must have been a pre-cursor to settled civilisation. <<

The more popular theory is that cats noticed that there were a lot of rats around grain bins, and moved in to take advantage of it. Which is to say, agriculture was the precursor (perhaps only by a few days) to cat "domestication".

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Date: 2018-02-18 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I think the sequence goes: Agriculture>cats>civilisation... probably in the space of a few weeks.

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Date: 2018-02-18 08:17 pm (UTC)
siliconshaman: black cat against the moon (Default)
From: [personal profile] siliconshaman
Sorry that was Me ^, a glitch logged me out.

Anyway, we had agriculture before we had settled civilisation. Nomad hunter/gathers transitioned by clearing and planting small plots at regular camp sites, and initially dug pit stores, which later became Cairn storage bins. Large circular dry stone structures that would store an entire winters supply... and that's probably when cats came on the scene.

Re: Yes ...

Date: 2018-02-20 02:45 pm (UTC)
alatefeline: Painting of a cat asleep on a book. (Default)
From: [personal profile] alatefeline

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Date: 2018-02-20 02:13 am (UTC)
freshbakedlady: photo of a toddler holding an orange tabby cat (Default)
From: [personal profile] freshbakedlady
Aw, that's a good one. The history of domestication is always so interesting. Humans made friends, one way or another.


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