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Beautiful, clear audio/video of spelling and pronunciation in Old Norse.  If you use this language and notation, definitely give this a listen.

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Date: 2014-02-07 03:07 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shehasathree
coool. thanks for sharing!

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Date: 2014-02-07 04:51 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thnidu
I loved it. Þæŋ-Q.

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Date: 2014-02-07 08:03 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cmcmck
I studied it as an undergrad.

Wonderful language :o)

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Date: 2014-02-09 06:34 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] everbright
She's loosing me a bit in the consonants, but boy howdy it's interesting just listening too. Thanks for the link!

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Date: 2014-02-07 12:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] siliconshaman.livejournal.com
I know I've joked about English being my second language, but I don't know what my first is...
well do now.

There's something about Norse that just fits! I can understand it, without really trying.

Which I suppose isn't surprising. If I remember my neurogentics correctly, we come with a preprogrammed genetic-based bias towards language groups based on sound families. You inherit a bias basically... doesn't stop you from learning other languages but it does make it easier to learn the one you have a bias towards. Which means that if you grow up in a culture speaking something other than the one your neural architecture is biased towards, you'd never know it until you encountered it.

Hmm...

Date: 2014-02-07 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ysabetwordsmith.livejournal.com
>> There's something about Norse that just fits! I can understand it, without really trying. <<

Awesome!

>> If I remember my neurogentics correctly, we come with a preprogrammed genetic-based bias towards language groups based on sound families. You inherit a bias basically... doesn't stop you from learning other languages but it does make it easier to learn the one you have a bias towards. Which means that if you grow up in a culture speaking something other than the one your neural architecture is biased towards, you'd never know it until you encountered it. <<

I have not heard this, and it goes against what I've encountered in the field of linguistics, which states that human infants are born with the capacity to learn any language with equal fluency. I would be keenly interested if you can find references for the genetic bias.

I have experienced that effect of affinity for a language, but in me it maps to farmemory not the genetics of my current body.

Re: Hmm...

Date: 2014-02-08 01:31 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] siliconshaman.livejournal.com
Ah well, I'm coming at it from the field of genetics, and you know how the sciences and the more 'liberal arts' disciplines don't see eye-to-eye, or read each others papers apparently...
A good starting point would be here, and here.

But basically, the central tenet of the linguistic argument for equal fluency has been shown to be unsupported, and that there is distinct variations those genes known to be associated with language and it's acquisition that variable by population as well as secondary variations by individual...

I'd say it's probably about 30/70 far-memory and genetics, at a guess. There's probably individual variation, and maybe even a 'default' setting for the genomes that shows no particular bias, so it would be entirely biased by external factors.

Re: Hmm...

Date: 2014-02-11 12:27 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zeeth_kyrah
So it appears, looking at my families and my aptitudes, that I'm genetically mapped for Germanic and some American-native languages; but they're intermixed, and only one group is offered regular language training in school.

I wonder if I'd be able to pick up Algic or Iroquoisan, since according to this map of NA language families, the Miami would have spoken an Algic language, and there was some regional overlap to the southeast. But then there's Siouan to the west, and Indiana's not that far from there, so.

I wonder if I'll ever find the resources in the first place.. I'd have to make an effort if I want to try. And that's actually kind of sad.

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Date: 2014-02-11 03:12 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] filkferengi
Have you heard "The Futhark Song" by Sassafrass? It's on youtube.

No...

Date: 2014-02-11 03:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ysabetwordsmith.livejournal.com
I haven't heard it, but it sounds cool.

Re: No...

Date: 2014-02-11 03:27 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] filkferengi
I highly recommend their other songs, especially "Somebody Will." You may also enjoy more of their Norse songs, especially "My Brother, My Enemy" and "Hearthfire."

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