>>Uh, no they didn't. Spock still had both mom and dad into his mid to late twenties, which is when the movie takes place.<<
I count it as early because Vulcans live longer than humans. Most people read Spock's age as if he were human, but he's not. He's 'younger' inside than a human of the same age would be.
In the original series, both Jim and Spock had their parents to shape their lives, and okay, the relationships were sometimes rocky but at least there was a level of stability there. In the reboot, Jim lost his father at birth and Spock lost his mother during the movie, which is later than early childhood but still a lot earlier than the original. And it ripped him to ribbons, which started affecting the plot immediately. So that's why I count it.
>>Which implies a much nastier and more deeply-rooted amount of xenophobia than was apparent (Spock still got looked down on as a halfblood) in the original universe.<<
True. That makes me wonder if T'Pring is still in the picture; very possibly not.
>>Jim on the other hand ... yeah. His mom *clearly* never recovered from losing George the way she did, if the novelization of the movie is to be treated as canon.<<
I gathered that from the movie. *ponder* Which is essentially the same scene as Howard Stark breaking from having gone down with Steve on the radio. Some people, like Peggy, manage to get up from that. Some don't.
>>And Pike handled dealing with Jim badly.<<
Let's hear it for Christopher Pike's A+ parenting.
>> I got the distinct impression the only reason Jim didn't punch him in the face was because he wasn't quite drunk enough to think that would be a swell idea. He gives Pike a positively *poisonous* look for it, though. <<
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Date: 2013-05-05 07:45 pm (UTC)I count it as early because Vulcans live longer than humans. Most people read Spock's age as if he were human, but he's not. He's 'younger' inside than a human of the same age would be.
In the original series, both Jim and Spock had their parents to shape their lives, and okay, the relationships were sometimes rocky but at least there was a level of stability there. In the reboot, Jim lost his father at birth and Spock lost his mother during the movie, which is later than early childhood but still a lot earlier than the original. And it ripped him to ribbons, which started affecting the plot immediately. So that's why I count it.
>>Which implies a much nastier and more deeply-rooted amount of xenophobia than was apparent (Spock still got looked down on as a halfblood) in the original universe.<<
True. That makes me wonder if T'Pring is still in the picture; very possibly not.
>>Jim on the other hand ... yeah. His mom *clearly* never recovered from losing George the way she did, if the novelization of the movie is to be treated as canon.<<
I gathered that from the movie. *ponder* Which is essentially the same scene as Howard Stark breaking from having gone down with Steve on the radio. Some people, like Peggy, manage to get up from that. Some don't.
>>And Pike handled dealing with Jim badly.<<
Let's hear it for Christopher Pike's A+ parenting.
>> I got the distinct impression the only reason Jim didn't punch him in the face was because he wasn't quite drunk enough to think that would be a swell idea. He gives Pike a positively *poisonous* look for it, though. <<
Yeah.