>>Those gatekeepers are mostly straight white men. <<
Well, the director for Mad Max Fury Road did a fairly good job, and there's a couple of other guys I have known in RL who do a good job of understanding. But yeah, it is still uncommon.
>>An exception is where they say, "Fuck that noise," and set up entirely on their own. We have women's presses to thank for the trove of women's literature.<<
Or self-publishing, and internet stuff like you do.
>>That's harder to do in film, which is more expensive than printing books, but some indie folks have done it. More would be better.<<
There are two solutions I can think of for this:
a) Make films in old-fashioned styles, with the old-fashioned special effects, but more modern plot ideas. So, a 1940's thriller where giant spiders attack (with the obviously-fake miniature town being invaded by tarantulas) and when the military can't get rid of them, the military wives figure it out.
b) Do slice-of-life or mocumentary style films. You'd likely have access to most of the props and if you choose your setting carefully, you might not need to travel much - or at all. But you could do something like a Modern-Family confession-cam highlighting the wage gap, sexual harassment, etc.
Either method, you maximize available resources, and minimize the disadvantages.
>>That's because it does. Any time you mess with the brain, there's a chance of opening up things like creativity, enlightenment, and magic.<<
I know that neurovariances and mental variances tend to cluster.
>>This aggravates modern people who prefer a medical model of mental illness and resent the connections between madness and art or the "magical cripple" trope. <<
If you use a machine-model for medicine the more...impressionistic? Creative? reality would be maddening. As for the whole Magical Disabled Person thing, it can be done well if the person is a well-rounded character (not a caricature) /and/ they have a realistic blend of advantages and disadvantages based on their condition. Toph (from ATLA) and Branch (from the Trolls movies) are good examples.
>>Or difference that incites assholes to be abusive, creating problems where they didn't previously exist.<<
Well, yes and no. Complicated of course by the fact that disabilities are contextual by situation and culture. Personally, I think that 'disability' carries the implication of an limitation, not just a difference that people will be mean about.
For example, being female is not a disability*, synesthesia may be a disability depending on how it manifests and complete blindness is always a disability (unless living in a society completely designed for nonvisual people.) *Ancient Greek gender nonsense nonwithstanding.
>>True, and that's likely happening with the Faceless. Probably the other groups of Outcasts have their own subcultures too.<<
Enid's family seems to hint at a werewolf subculture; it seems unlikely for them to have 'therapeutic camps' without some sort of cohesion.
I am unsure if Morticia, Wednesday, and Goody Addams' seer abilities are part of a wider subculture. The lack of available information would argue no, but it is possible they are incredibly secretive or function as a master-apprentice chain.
I did not see any signs of siren or vampire subculture, though they would seem likely. Also, if the wider franchise is canon, there is an overall 'outcast subculture' that the Addams family belongs to, which extends beyond Nevermore and the Addams house.
>>I suspect the latter -- she doesn't have the training or skills to do a good job, but is used anyway because she's available.<<
She doesn't seem to be very comfortable with Wednesday and the rest of the family, and the whole Tyler situation ended very badly. Also, wouldn't a sudden change in behavior raise some flags (assuming Hyde transformations have similar symptoms to other sudden 'snapping' forms of mental illness)?
>>It's easier when the college and the community are fairly close in culture and appearance. When there's a big gap, though, it can get nasty and that does happen here too.<<
The college was more liberal and international than the surrounding area, but I never heard of any serious student-townie problems...wait, there was one, a cultural/linguistic misunderstanding with an international student. And someone mentioned getting odd looks when out with her boyfriend (interracial couple in Appalachia.)
I did hear of more and worse student-student problems.
>>I found one example of absolutely awful pranking over in Terramagne. The Taliban bought zetetic street drugs in hopes of souping up some of their child soldiers. But because they are the Taliban, only other nutjobs would deal with them. And those nutjobs thought it was funny to sell them drugs made from pigs instead of the cow version that the Taliban ordered. Because that's what nutjobs are like.<<
...I'd feel sorry for the kids. That's, what, a triple-whammy of religious abuse? :/
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Date: 2023-03-07 04:39 am (UTC)Well, the director for Mad Max Fury Road did a fairly good job, and there's a couple of other guys I have known in RL who do a good job of understanding. But yeah, it is still uncommon.
>>An exception is where they say, "Fuck that noise," and set up entirely on their own. We have women's presses to thank for the trove of women's literature.<<
Or self-publishing, and internet stuff like you do.
>>That's harder to do in film, which is more expensive than printing books, but some indie folks have done it. More would be better.<<
There are two solutions I can think of for this:
a) Make films in old-fashioned styles, with the old-fashioned special effects, but more modern plot ideas. So, a 1940's thriller where giant spiders attack (with the obviously-fake miniature town being invaded by tarantulas) and when the military can't get rid of them, the military wives figure it out.
b) Do slice-of-life or mocumentary style films. You'd likely have access to most of the props and if you choose your setting carefully, you might not need to travel much - or at all. But you could do something like a Modern-Family confession-cam highlighting the wage gap, sexual harassment, etc.
Either method, you maximize available resources, and minimize the disadvantages.
>>That's because it does. Any time you mess with the brain, there's a chance of opening up things like creativity, enlightenment, and magic.<<
I know that neurovariances and mental variances tend to cluster.
>>This aggravates modern people who prefer a medical model of mental illness and resent the connections between madness and art or the "magical cripple" trope. <<
If you use a machine-model for medicine the more...impressionistic? Creative? reality would be maddening.
As for the whole Magical Disabled Person thing, it can be done well if the person is a well-rounded character (not a caricature) /and/ they have a realistic blend of advantages and disadvantages based on their condition. Toph (from ATLA) and Branch (from the Trolls movies) are good examples.
>>Or difference that incites assholes to be abusive, creating problems where they didn't previously exist.<<
Well, yes and no. Complicated of course by the fact that disabilities are contextual by situation and culture. Personally, I think that 'disability' carries the implication of an limitation, not just a difference that people will be mean about.
For example, being female is not a disability*, synesthesia may be a disability depending on how it manifests and complete blindness is always a disability (unless living in a society completely designed for nonvisual people.)
*Ancient Greek gender nonsense nonwithstanding.
>>True, and that's likely happening with the Faceless. Probably the other groups of Outcasts have their own subcultures too.<<
Enid's family seems to hint at a werewolf subculture; it seems unlikely for them to have 'therapeutic camps' without some sort of cohesion.
I am unsure if Morticia, Wednesday, and Goody Addams' seer abilities are part of a wider subculture. The lack of available information would argue no, but it is possible they are incredibly secretive or function as a master-apprentice chain.
I did not see any signs of siren or vampire subculture, though they would seem likely. Also, if the wider franchise is canon, there is an overall 'outcast subculture' that the Addams family belongs to, which extends beyond Nevermore and the Addams house.
>>I suspect the latter -- she doesn't have the training or skills to do a good job, but is used anyway because she's available.<<
She doesn't seem to be very comfortable with Wednesday and the rest of the family, and the whole Tyler situation ended very badly. Also, wouldn't a sudden change in behavior raise some flags (assuming Hyde transformations have similar symptoms to other sudden 'snapping' forms of mental illness)?
>>It's easier when the college and the community are fairly close in culture and appearance. When there's a big gap, though, it can get nasty and that does happen here too.<<
The college was more liberal and international than the surrounding area, but I never heard of any serious student-townie problems...wait, there was one, a cultural/linguistic misunderstanding with an international student. And someone mentioned getting odd looks when out with her boyfriend (interracial couple in Appalachia.)
I did hear of more and worse student-student problems.
>>I found one example of absolutely awful pranking over in Terramagne. The Taliban bought zetetic street drugs in hopes of souping up some of their child soldiers. But because they are the Taliban, only other nutjobs would deal with them. And those nutjobs thought it was funny to sell them drugs made from pigs instead of the cow version that the Taliban ordered. Because that's what nutjobs are like.<<
...I'd feel sorry for the kids. That's, what, a triple-whammy of religious abuse? :/