>>Allergic reaction to additives is possible, as is slipping on the greasy stuff and falling.<<
And cholesterol.
>>Owning a store does not grant legal authority or right to make decisions about anyone else's life.<<
Stores [and schools and government institutions and doctor's offices and...] can have policies like "wear shoes, because of broken glass" or "please keep out of this area, because private/danger" which I think are reasonable, even if not enshrined in law. Something like "everyone who shops here must dress like a clown" would be ridiculous, even if it were/is legal.
I don't know enough about law to know the exactly specifications of what is technically allowed or not.
Though I do think safety issues should get extra consideration, even if only from an ettiquite standpoint. (Think scent-free office, quiet shopping hour, wearing shoes in a pottery shop, etc.)
>>So if someone ignores a sign that isn't a law, I don't really have any sympathy for the store.<<
You have a point. For your examples: I don't think the receipt thing makes sense. Insisting on phone numbers might make sense for a members-only store (to pull up the accounts), but not for other stores. (Although not getting enough signups in that case is often blamed on the employees, which I don't think is fair either.)
My reaction is more emotional. Basically 1) Consent is important 2) Store employees often are not allowed to say no to customers 3) It is polite to respect other people's boundaries 4) If someone cannot say no it is the duty of the person with more power to respect the boundary.
Or in other words, if I [as a customer] get a "We'd prefer if..." from someone who can't outright say no, I should at least give it extra consideration.
Imagine a situation where a waitress asks a kid to stop running in the aisles, the kid doesn't and gets tripped over, and the waitress gets blamed.
(And I didn't actually say anything to the guy. It didn't seem worth more effort than irritable mental grumbling. And again, like half the other people there were ignoring the policy...)
I guess overall we should try to respect each other, and listen to different viewpoints. Usually, all people have some good points, and one person can't forsee all potential problems by themself.
I don't know for sure if this all makes sense. I think it does, but everyone says that about the inner workings of their mind, so...YMMV?
...I hope I have expressed my thoughts politely and inoffensively.
And if you have further thoughts on this I am interested in hearing them.
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dancing_serpent
Re: Well ...
Date: 2021-10-03 01:31 am (UTC)And cholesterol.
>>Owning a store does not grant legal authority or right to make decisions about anyone else's life.<<
Stores [and schools and government institutions and doctor's offices and...] can have policies like "wear shoes, because of broken glass" or "please keep out of this area, because private/danger" which I think are reasonable, even if not enshrined in law. Something like "everyone who shops here must dress like a clown" would be ridiculous, even if it were/is legal.
I don't know enough about law to know the exactly specifications of what is technically allowed or not.
Though I do think safety issues should get extra consideration, even if only from an ettiquite standpoint. (Think scent-free office, quiet shopping hour, wearing shoes in a pottery shop, etc.)
>>So if someone ignores a sign that isn't a law, I don't really have any sympathy for the store.<<
You have a point. For your examples: I don't think the receipt thing makes sense. Insisting on phone numbers might make sense for a members-only store (to pull up the accounts), but not for other stores. (Although not getting enough signups in that case is often blamed on the employees, which I don't think is fair either.)
My reaction is more emotional. Basically
1) Consent is important
2) Store employees often are not allowed to say no to customers
3) It is polite to respect other people's boundaries
4) If someone cannot say no it is the duty of the person with more power to respect the boundary.
Or in other words, if I [as a customer] get a "We'd prefer if..." from someone who can't outright say no, I should at least give it extra consideration.
Imagine a situation where a waitress asks a kid to stop running in the aisles, the kid doesn't and gets tripped over, and the waitress gets blamed.
(And I didn't actually say anything to the guy. It didn't seem worth more effort than irritable mental grumbling. And again, like half the other people there were ignoring the policy...)
I guess overall we should try to respect each other, and listen to different viewpoints. Usually, all people have some good points, and one person can't forsee all potential problems by themself.
I don't know for sure if this all makes sense. I think it does, but everyone says that about the inner workings of their mind, so...YMMV?
...I hope I have expressed my thoughts politely and inoffensively.
And if you have further thoughts on this I am interested in hearing them.