>> That is...unpleasant, but makes sense. For some reason I was imagining how bacon would /literally/ kill someone... <<
Allergic reaction to additives is possible, as is slipping on the greasy stuff and falling. But those are nowhere near as common as the bigoted uses.
>> Oh, I'm just extra grumpy today because a) some guy was being obnoxious at the store yesterday and b) my reaction was 'rude!' instead of being creeped out...which indicates I see that sort of behavior as normal. <<
Yeah, civility is long gone.
>> And he (and half the people in the store) were being rude to the staff by ignoring a certain policy posted at the door. (I used to work retail; I know retailese for "We want X but can't actually enforce the boundary.") <<
Owning a store does not grant legal authority or right to make decisions about anyone else's life. The manager may make demands of employees but not customers. If it's not enforceable by law, it's just a request that people are free to ignore. Either side picking a fight about it is rude. The polite thing is to post a sign on the front, making clear that it is a request and not a law.
I've seen stores making more and more offensive intrusions on people's lives, which causes problems. In one case, Wal-Mart was trying to search everyone's cart to compare items against receipts, which pissed off basically everyone. Stores routinely demand phone numbers and become angry if refused. On and on. So if someone ignores a sign that isn't a law, I don't really have any sympathy for the store.
Consider also that, while it is a hardship to be unable to buy things locally because a customer disagrees with a store's behavior, there are now many more other options. People can and do buy things online instead. If stores and customers can't get along, there will simply cease to be many stores. That would really suck, because lots of things are harder or impossible to buy online where you can't feel them. But that is where the trend is heading, so store owners should be careful about squabbling with customers. It doesn't excuse anyone picking on each other, but does highlight that if people want stores to continue existing, both owners and customers will need to make choices with that in mind.
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Re: Well ...
Date: 2021-10-03 12:47 am (UTC)Allergic reaction to additives is possible, as is slipping on the greasy stuff and falling. But those are nowhere near as common as the bigoted uses.
>> Oh, I'm just extra grumpy today because a) some guy was being obnoxious at the store yesterday and b) my reaction was 'rude!' instead of being creeped out...which indicates I see that sort of behavior as normal. <<
Yeah, civility is long gone.
>> And he (and half the people in the store) were being rude to the staff by ignoring a certain policy posted at the door. (I used to work retail; I know retailese for "We want X but can't actually enforce the boundary.") <<
Owning a store does not grant legal authority or right to make decisions about anyone else's life. The manager may make demands of employees but not customers. If it's not enforceable by law, it's just a request that people are free to ignore. Either side picking a fight about it is rude. The polite thing is to post a sign on the front, making clear that it is a request and not a law.
I've seen stores making more and more offensive intrusions on people's lives, which causes problems. In one case, Wal-Mart was trying to search everyone's cart to compare items against receipts, which pissed off basically everyone. Stores routinely demand phone numbers and become angry if refused. On and on. So if someone ignores a sign that isn't a law, I don't really have any sympathy for the store.
Consider also that, while it is a hardship to be unable to buy things locally because a customer disagrees with a store's behavior, there are now many more other options. People can and do buy things online instead. If stores and customers can't get along, there will simply cease to be many stores. That would really suck, because lots of things are harder or impossible to buy online where you can't feel them. But that is where the trend is heading, so store owners should be careful about squabbling with customers. It doesn't excuse anyone picking on each other, but does highlight that if people want stores to continue existing, both owners and customers will need to make choices with that in mind.