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The Poetry Fishbowl is now CLOSED.  Thank you for your time and attention.  Please keep an eye on this space as I am still writing.

Starting now, the Poetry Fishbowl is open!  Today's theme is "alternative methods of teaching."  I will be checking this page periodically throughout the day. When people make suggestions, I'll pick some and weave them together into a poem ... and then another ... and so on. I'm hoping to get a lot of ideas and a lot of poems.

What is alternative education? It covers all the options outside of the standard school systems. Some well-known examples from local-Earth include Montessori and Waldorf.

In Terramagne, Montessori schools are more common and extend through higher grade levels. Education for superkids is an issue, because until recently, there hasn't been sufficient density to offer a school specially tailored for them. The closest is that the Marionettes have established schools for their kids, powered and unpowered alike. T-Maldives is using that for some inspiration, but they'll draw the main framework from the Waldorf tradition because it already supports spiritual growth -- all they need to do is rip out anything that doesn't fit and replace it with Muslim-friendly content. There are also some alt-school systems particular to Terramagne:

Waldenkinder is a T-American alternative school that draws some inspiration from Waldorf and Montessori models, Waldenkinder has a naturalistic theme and believes that children learn best from going outside and doing things for themselves. It was founded by a German husband and a Jewish wife who left Germany for America in 1934 and started the first school in 1935. In good weather, most activities take place outdoors. In bad weather, students study in classrooms with natural furnishings and large windows, then make shorter excursions outside. Teachers present some lessons, but a majority of the learning is self-directed. It was introduced in "The Heart to Rejoice."

Reflétant l’école is an alternative school designed to support children's urge to mimic adults. It was developed by a French-speaking community in T-Vermont who wanted an effective system of education that scaled well across socioeconomic classes, and it represents a formal version of historic practices. It is customarily a French immersion school for that reason, although it doesn't have to be.

Circle System is a T-American alternative school with Pagan roots. It includes a homeschool system, camps, and a few schoolbuildings. It is supported by a publisher called the Circle Living Library, which puts out coloring books, activity pages, storybooks, workbooks, and other educational and entertainment materials for Pagan families. The Circle System emphasizes spirituality, nature studies, history, and the fine arts. It has produced many historians, naturalists, scientists, activists, painters, sculptors, dancers, musicians, liturgists, and more. It also includes modules for a number of major traditions including Asatru, Druidry, Eclectic Paganism, Shamanism, Strega, and Wicca. These can be used to customize a school for different faiths, so for instance, the musical track in an Asatru school would train skalds while a Druid school would train bards.

Among my more relevant series:
An Army of One, Fiorenza the Wisewoman, Frankenstein's Family, Hart's Farm, Path of the Paladins, Starfather, and The Steamsmith.
Polychrome Heroics features a wide range of educational elements, of which the more salient examples include Calliope, Cassandra, Cuoio and Chiara, Danso and Family, Dr. Infanta, the Iron Horses, Officer Pink, Pain's Gray, and Shiv.

Currently eligible bingo card(s) for donors wishing to sponsor a square:
School Days Bingo Fest

Click to read the linkback poem, "Cafuné"  (7 verses, LIFC).


What Is a Poetry Fishbowl?

Writing is usually considered a solitary pursuit. One exception to this is a fascinating exercise called a "fishbowl." This has various forms, but all of them basically involve some kind of writing in public, usually with interaction between author and audience. A famous example is Harlan Ellison's series of "stories under glass" in which he sits in a bookstore window and writes a new story based on an idea that someone gives him. Writing classes sometimes include a version where students watch each other write, often with students calling out suggestions which are chalked up on the blackboard for those writing to use as inspiration.

In this online version of a Poetry Fishbowl, I begin by setting a theme; today's theme is "alternative methods of teaching."  I invite people to suggest characters, settings, and other things relating to that theme. Then I use those prompts as inspiration for writing poems.


Cyberfunded Creativity

I'm practicing cyberfunded creativity. If you enjoy what I'm doing and want to see more of it, please feed the Bard. The following options are currently available:

1) Sponsor the Fishbowl -- Here is a PayPal button for donations. There is no specific requirement, but $1 is the minimum recommended size for PayPal transactions since they take a cut from every one. You can also donate via check or money order sent by postal mail. If you make a donation and tell me about it, I promise to use one of your prompts. Anonymous donations are perfectly welcome, just won't get that perk. General donations will be tallied, and at the end of the fishbowl I’ll post a list of eligible poems based on the total funding; then the audience can vote on which they want to see posted.
 


2) Swim, Fishie, Swim! -- A feature in conjunction with fishbowl sponsorship is this progress meter showing the amount donated.  There are multiple perks, the top one being a half-price poetry sale on one series when donations reach $300.



3) Buy It Now! -- Gakked from various e-auction sites, this feature allows you to sponsor a specific poem. If you don't want to wait for some editor to buy and publish my poem so you can read it, well, now you don't have to. Sponsoring a poem means that I will immediately post it on my blog for everyone to see, with the name of the sponsor (or another dedicate) if you wish; plus you get a nonexclusive publication right, so you can post it on your own blog or elsewhere as long as you keep the credits intact. You'll need to tell me the title of the poem you want to sponsor. I'm basing the prices on length, and they're comparable to what I typically make selling poetry to magazines (semi-pro rates according to Duotrope's Digest).

0-10 lines: $5
11-25 lines: $10
26-40 lines: $15
41-60 lines: $20
Poems over 60 lines, or with very intricate structure, fall into custom pricing.

4) Commission a scrapbook page. I can render a chosen poem in hardcopy format, on colorful paper, using archival materials for background and any embellishments. This will be suitable for framing or for adding to a scrapbook. Commission details are here.  See latest photos of sample scrapbooked poems: "Sample Scrapbooked Poems 1-24-11"

5) Spread the word. Echo or link to this post on your Dreamwidth, other blog, Twitter, Facebook, Digg, StumbleUpon, or any other social network.  Useful Twitter hashtags include #poetryfishbowl and #promptcall.  Encourage people to come here and participate in the fishbowl.  If you have room for it, including your own prompt will give your readers an idea of what the prompts should look like; ideally, update later to include the thumbnail of the poem I write, and a link to the poem if it gets published.  If there is at least one new prompter or donor, I will post an extra freebie poem.

Linkback perk: I have a spare series poem available, and each linkback will reveal a verse of the poem.  One person can do multiple links if they're on different services, like Dreamwidth or Twitter, rather than all on LiveJournal.  Comment with a link to where you posted.  "Cafuné"  has 7 verses and belongs to LIFC.
 

Additional Notes

1) I customarily post replies to prompt posts telling people which of their prompts I'm using, with a brief description of the resulting poem(s). If you want to know what's available, watch for those "thumbnails."

2) You don't have to pay me to see a poem based on a prompt that you gave me. I try to send copies of poems to people, mostly using the DW message function.  (Anonymous prompters will miss this perk unless you give me your eddress.)  These are for-your-eyes-only, though, not for sharing.

3) Sponsors of the Poetry Fishbowl in general, or of specific poems, will gain access to an extra post in appreciation of their generosity.  While you're on the Donors list, you can view all of the custom-locked posts in that category.  Click the "donors" tag to read the archive of those.  I've also posted a list of other donor perks there.  I customarily leave donor names on the list for two months, so you'll get to see the perk-post from this month and next.

4) After the Poetry Fishbowl concludes, I will post a list of unsold poems and their prices, to make it easier for folks to see what they might want to sponsor.

5) If donations total $100 by Sunday evening then you get a free $15 poem; $150 gets you a free $20 poem; and $200 gets you a free epic, posted after the Poetry Fishbowl.  These will usually be series poems if I have them; otherwise I may offer non-series poems or series poems in a different size.  If donations reach $250, you get one step toward a bonus fishbowl; four of these activates the perk, and they don't have to be four months in a row.  Everyone will get to vote on which series, and give prompts during the extra fishbowl, although it may be a half-day rather than a whole day.  If donations reach $300, there will be a half-price sale in one series.


Feed the Fish!
Now's your chance to participate in the creative process by posting ideas for me to write about. Today's theme is "alternative methods of teaching."  I'll be soliciting ideas for teachers, students, neurovariant people, parents and children, scholars, educational innovators like Maria Montessori or Rudolf Steiner, counselors, superheroes, supervillains, refugees, trauma survivors, people with learning disabilities, gifted people, twice-exceptional people, others involved with teaching or learning, going to school, unschooling, homeschooling, continuing education, teaching, learning, traveling, establishing a sequence of steps, modifying older lessons for current needs, exploring new discoveries, creating connections, teaching each other, counseling, mixing different ages, coming of age, learning what you can (and can't) do, recovering from setbacks, schools, colleges, trade schools, summer camps, public institutions, museums, zoos, parks, counseling centers, homes, outdoor classrooms, maker spaces, other places where people learn, apprenticeship, the 9 intelligences, sensory modes, learning styles, gifted traits, symptoms of learning disabilities, free will, educational abuse, educational neglect, personal growth, frustration, determination, imprint vulnerability, failure, success, rites of passage, and poetic forms in particular. But anything is welcome, really. If you manage to recommend a form that I don't recognize, I will probably pounce on it and ask you for its rules. I do have The New Book of Forms by Lewis Turco which covers most common and many obscure forms.

I'll post at least one of the fishbowl poems here so you-all can enjoy it. (Remember, you get an extra freebie poem if someone new posts a prompt or makes a donation, and additional perks at $100-$300 in donations.  Linkbacks reveal verses of "Cafuné."  The rest of the poems will go into my archive for future use.
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Date: 2019-04-02 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jtthomas
Has Alicia ever explored going to school with children close to her apparent age?

Apprenticeship stories and realizing academia isn’t a good fit for someone.

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Date: 2019-04-02 05:38 pm (UTC)
technoshaman: Tux (Default)
From: [personal profile] technoshaman
Victor and Igor teach Adam.
There are plenty of things Shiv missed in his upbringing. The Finns help him through one.

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A couple more to consider

Date: 2019-04-02 05:37 pm (UTC)
ng_moonmoth: The Moon-Moth (Default)
From: [personal profile] ng_moonmoth
The one about Shiv that I mentioned on the School Days post.

Restorative justice as a teaching method.

Plus one more by PM, because I feel it is likelier to be triggery than I'd be comfortable putting here.

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Date: 2019-04-02 06:05 pm (UTC)
mama_kestrel: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mama_kestrel
Mentoring as a teaching method.

Modeling with explanations; encouraging the student to figure out potential solutions rather than spoon-feeding (or force-feeding!) information.

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Date: 2019-04-02 06:19 pm (UTC)
peoriapeoriawhereart: little girls are stinkers (sweetness and angles)
From: [personal profile] peoriapeoriawhereart
2e (I've got an article up on my DW if you want more notes to riff over)

A "natural" versus hard earned

Lost in translation

Unintended curriculums

Prompt

Date: 2019-04-02 06:30 pm (UTC)
dialecticdreamer: My work (Default)
From: [personal profile] dialecticdreamer
Genna meets another teacher on the Black!Sheep boards and they help each other brainstorm, all without ever violating their students' privacy-- or each other's.

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Date: 2019-04-02 06:35 pm (UTC)
pantha: (Default)
From: [personal profile] pantha
Shiv learning more maths via touchy-feely methods.

Turq learning (re-learning?) Chinese.

Stan and Lawrence learning something at Activity Scouts. Perhaps something practical (woodwork? bushcraft? textiles? ... oooooh! actually, textiles could be awesome! I wonder what Stan thinks of that ... potential for him to think it's useful/cool or potential for him to need some education...)

Us seeing more about the teaching methods used in Victor and Igor's village.

Something based on this: https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/53283/how-inuit-parents-teach-kids-to-control-their-anger
Edited Date: 2019-04-02 06:36 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2019-04-02 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jtthomas
Adding my voice to the Turq and Inuit prompts.

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Date: 2019-04-02 06:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] erulisse
I wanna know more about homeschooling in Terramagne!

Circle System sounds awesome and I bet there are some /really cool/ co-ops out there.

Does Terramagne do unschooling much? Or other types of self-directed education?

Also, are there better options for kids who need credentials to go to college or whatever?

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Boosted!

Date: 2019-04-02 06:43 pm (UTC)
fuzzyred: Me wearing my fuzzy red bathrobe. (Default)
From: [personal profile] fuzzyred
I have left a signal boost on my page.

For prompts:

A teacher realizes that a student is struggling with a subject, not because it is too hard for them, but because the teaching method doesn't match their learning style. The teacher then proceeds to fix the problem.

Red pen causing emotional issues (not necessarily a flashback) due to bad school experiences.

A teacher at a regular school ends up with students with widely varied learning styles (kinetic, visual, written, etc) and possibly a few supernaries or superintellects. The teacher proceeds to be amazing and find a creative way to accomodate as many of the different needs as possible.

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Date: 2019-04-02 06:53 pm (UTC)
inky_magpie: a black and white photo of a blossom (Default)
From: [personal profile] inky_magpie
+1 to these ideas as well

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Date: 2019-04-03 04:17 am (UTC)
alatefeline: Painting of a cat asleep on a book. (Default)
From: [personal profile] alatefeline
Ooooh, shiny!

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Date: 2019-04-02 07:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wyld_dandelyon
I would love to see Hart's Farm and the Steamsmith again.

I would also like to see more about the Circle System.

The square on your bingo card that drew my attention was boredom, which I think is a big barrier to learning. I'm interested in everything, so my issues with boredom were more about being taught stuff I already knew (over and over again, usually), but while in school, I also saw that people who were bored didn't learn stuff that they didn't know yet very well. And sometimes a teacher's style so dull that it made it hard to learn stuff that I was interested in, or a good teacher's enthusiasm got me more interested in things. There's so much one could do with that topic!

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Date: 2019-04-02 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] torc87
This is sort of LIFC but not really - how do Loki and Thor learn? Norse education spanning thousands of years, war skills, fighting, magic, war making like a leadership, kingship duties, astronomy and nine world's culture - all probably based on how Norse style of teaching was. Did they have apprenticeships? Tutors like royals? We're in an army? Loki has a very diff fighting style than Thor. Did they study on their own? Homeschooling on a royal level? Play w other kids? How do Gods teach and learn?

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Date: 2019-04-02 07:17 pm (UTC)
inky_magpie: a black and white photo of a blossom (Default)
From: [personal profile] inky_magpie
Not sure if it really fits this prompt, but one of Lucy's classes have a "field trip" to Blue Moon? (Dancing to live jazz vs recorded jazz? History of music? Class's normal space is unavailable for some reason?)

Someone in a wheelchair learning how to dance?

Shiv waits for Lucy and listens/ watches a college class and sees a teacher working with different modalities/ uses different types of examples in thon's lecture

Buttons looking at different schools in the area to see what would be the best fit for Jaxon?

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Date: 2019-04-02 07:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] siliconshaman
There's alternative..and there's Alternative... and where else are those with mind gifts going to learn?

Alicia Martin hangs out [or hangs upside down from the monkey bars] at a school and spends the day just being a kid again...

The Lacuna acquires an educational system... and it's as much home-brew as everything else there.

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Date: 2019-04-03 02:30 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] erulisse
+1 for the Lacuna's educational system. One imagines there's a lot of one on one or small-group instruction. Probably also some vocational training by apprenticeship/shadowing

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Date: 2019-04-02 07:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redsixwing
Learners with multiple sensory modes might end up with conflicting needs - how does a competent system handle that?

+1 the Shiv and Inuit prompts from upthread; those look extremely interesting.

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Date: 2019-04-03 12:16 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] eseme
I would like to second the sensory modes prompt, and I think it could apply to Army of One. I am very interested in how they will handle education given the currently small number of children (but it's a growing number) and the experiences that many of the adults have had with education systems.

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Date: 2019-04-02 08:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kengr
The Circle System sounds interesting. Lord knows that if something like that had been around when I was a kid (and I had a way to access it) I'd likely have read the modules on the various religions just for the heck of it.

And possibly distressed/annoyed my mom if/when she found out.

So there's a thought. Kids "exploring" their spirituality via the modules for different faiths, and different parental reactions.

Accepting parents, indignant parents, very much "this is evil and must be stopped" parents.

I think the one "comparative religions" "class" (actually part of social studies, the teachers sort of snuck it in) I had in high school would have glommed onto those modules.

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Date: 2019-04-03 02:33 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] erulisse
>>Lord knows that if something like that had been around when I was a kid (and I had a way to access it) I'd likely have read the modules on the various religions just for the heck of it.

Gods yes. I pretty much put something like that together for myself because I was /so interested/ but it would've been nice to have an actual curriculum to work from.

>>And possibly distressed/annoyed my mom if/when she found out.

I had to get pretty good at hiding my library books

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Date: 2019-04-02 08:49 pm (UTC)
curiosity: Close up of a tabby cat's face from nose to corner of the eye, including part of the muzzle and a few whiskers. (Picto:  Forest Miniature)
From: [personal profile] curiosity
Kids teaching themselves and each other because the adults don't get it.

3d printing school supplies and making the rest from random things before learning can even start. (sewing scrap paper together for notebooks, painting chalkboards onto a sheet of plywood, etc)

Classes that actually teach useful stuff - taxes, job interviews, conflict resolution.

Kids teaching teachers how to teach.

Learning by example, figuring out where the example went hella wrong - then fixing it.

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Date: 2019-04-03 12:40 am (UTC)
readera: a cup of tea with an open book behind it (Default)
From: [personal profile] readera
+1

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3d printing school supplies and making the rest from random things before learning can even start. (sewing scrap paper together for notebooks, painting chalkboards onto a sheet of plywood, etc)

Classes that actually teach useful stuff - taxes, job interviews, conflict resolution.

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Date: 2019-04-02 09:07 pm (UTC)
starbit: a purple cat eye surrounded by black fur (Default)
From: [personal profile] starbit
can you do something with heron helping shiv with the medium term effects of dr infanta's healing? (i asked about that on the poem comments and you said to bring it up during the fishbowl)

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Date: 2019-04-02 09:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] librarygeek
1) Shiv knits a brain per understanding math and neurological issues. OtherBook had the pretty picture and link, technoshaman tagged you on my page. :-)

2) The French school sounds a lot like how my grandmother and mother taught me to speak and interact. I think it would work really well for people on the autism spectrum like me. #AutismAcceptanceMonth I also note many of the Northern Native American peoples still seem more attached to French than English, even in names. Specifically, my dad's childhood friend was Iroquois, on the New Jersey coastal island and legal name was Laurent Rène {lastname}. Ok, my spelling is horrible today, but we called him Uncle Larry or Rocky. Crisscross the school, autistic appropriate education, and Native Americans please, even if it's just a specific instructor or partner schools in an area.

Reflétant l’école is an alternative school designed to support children's urge to mimic adults. It was developed by a French-speaking community in T-Vermont who wanted an effective system of education that scaled well across socioeconomic classes, and it represents a formal version of historic practices. It is customarily a French immersion school for that reason, although it doesn't have to be.

3) Let the werewolves with Victor and Igor educate someone, whether about hunting or gathering herbs. ;-)

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Date: 2019-04-03 01:01 am (UTC)
readera: a cup of tea with an open book behind it (Default)
From: [personal profile] readera
+1 for knit brain & for werewolves

Boosted!

Date: 2019-04-02 11:59 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2019-04-03 12:46 am (UTC)
readera: a cup of tea with an open book behind it (Default)
From: [personal profile] readera
1. Adam & the other cubs in lessons with the older Wolves or with Igor or Victor!

2. Turq starting up his education however he can. Outdoor classes for the win!

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Date: 2019-04-03 01:17 am (UTC)
janetmiles: Cartoon avatar (Default)
From: [personal profile] janetmiles
Cuisenaire Rods

Matrix-like info dumps -- and the side effects thereof

Telepathy as an initial way of reaching Deaf-Blind students

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Date: 2019-04-03 03:31 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] corvi
A cantankerous retired old sword master is being pestered by a would-be apprentice who went to a lot of effort to track the master down to learn from them. Unfortunately, even if the presumptive apprentice manages to convince the master to take them on, the master's knowledge of swordplay is largely instinctive and intuitive at this point. They don't think about what to do, they just do it. How could they even teach someone? (Or any other emphatically-retired Master of some skill, doesn't have to be swords)
Edited Date: 2019-04-03 03:47 am (UTC)

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Date: 2019-04-03 04:07 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'm interested in the French and Circle schooling methods - links or stories and links.

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Date: 2019-04-03 04:14 am (UTC)
alatefeline: Painting of a cat asleep on a book. (Default)
From: [personal profile] alatefeline
Mallory and Heron - bedtimes.

Shiv - teaching someone else how to use a visual schedule now that he is pretty fluent using it for himself. Bonus points if the recipient initially has a bad attitude and Shiv takes no shit but also manages to be persuasive.

Nature observation and nature play in an urban environment; life growing through the sidewalks.

'Time variable, learning constant' is a model some L-American school districts have tried to attain by focusing on proficiency standards and having flexible schedules ... what would 'time variable, learning excellent' look like in T-America?

Teaching a group that is diverse in age AND in prior knowledge of the topic so that they are all engaged in learning, rather than only pitching to the middle.

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Date: 2019-04-03 09:56 am (UTC)
gingicat: deep purple lilacs, some buds, some open (Default)
From: [personal profile] gingicat
Shiv prompt seconded!

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