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Here's a mostly tongue-in-cheek post about describing fair skin in some of the ways that dark skin is often described.

I have actually used "marzipan" as a skin tone. Also cream, peach, toast, porcelain, bisque, alabaster, grub (as in insect, not food), and uncooked bread dough. (Some of the descriptions were from a less-than-positive perspective.) Also in the white-people range are the pinkish-fair tones that are not copper, so things like ruddy, flushed, coral, and rosy apply.

Kay in Schrodinger's Heroes is Hispanic, but has fair skin, which I have described as vanilla latte: a dark cream or the palest possible brown.

Then there was the time I spent over an hour hunting around for synonyms and metaphors of "brown" that were based on things NOT associated with the slave trade, preferably things relating to African culture. Kola nut was a favorite. Ebony, which is dark brown to black, is a sacred wood in Africa and thus legit.

My desertfolk often have two or three colortones combined: rose-gold, rose-mocha, toasted-peaches-and-cream.  It's very rare to see truly pale skin or very dark skin in the Whispering Sands, but they cover an enormous range in between with subtle and complex variations of ruddy, shadowy, and tawny hues.  Very beautiful.  Oh, and to them "melon" is specifically the color of ladyparts and they make jokes about it.

Well...

Date: 2014-08-23 02:31 am (UTC)
helgatwb: Drawing of Helga, holding her sword, looking upset. (Default)
From: [personal profile] helgatwb
I'm no writer, but my husband has skin the color of a glazed doughnut. The doughnut part, not the glaze part, he's half Sicilian.

My skin is pink. Like, three shades lighter but the same tone as the pink used for a baby girl's blankets.

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Date: 2014-08-23 03:02 am (UTC)
blitzwing: ([magi] aladdin)
From: [personal profile] blitzwing
The effect is funny, but the truth is white people's skin already gets described with food items quite often (peaches n cream, whey-faced, doughy complexion, strawberry-colored X (lips, nipples, etc), like cherries, creamy, skin the color of milk, etc).

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Date: 2014-08-23 03:20 am (UTC)
alexseanchai: Katsuki Yuuri wearing a blue jacket and his glasses and holding a poodle, in front of the asexual pride flag with a rainbow heart inset. (Default)
From: [personal profile] alexseanchai
I tend to go for 'brown', 'pale brown', 'dark brown', yadda. It's workaday but it works.

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Date: 2014-08-23 03:56 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I just want to point out that freshly ground beef is only a good description of fair skin if they have a *wicked* sunburn, and uncooked chicken breast is really only better if it's a skin-on chicken breast (and even then, that's pretty yellowish--not a particularly healthy person). But #16 is right on the money, and a rather pointed commentary on the Hunger Games specifically.

--Jessica

NO FAIR!

Date: 2014-08-23 03:57 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dialecticdreamer
Tapioca! BOTHERATION! TAPIOCA-colored skin!

Somebody get me some melanin, PRETTY PLEASE? I want to at least be able to pass for the color of walnut meats, not their hulls or the outer husk of the meat.

It's so unfair to be ALLERGIC to one's own skin tone.

Pouting, stomping feet. (At least until I begin laughing again!)

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Date: 2014-08-23 08:10 am (UTC)
zeeth_kyrah: A glowing white and blue anthropomorphic horse stands before a pink and blue sky. (Default)
From: [personal profile] zeeth_kyrah
"Pink marzipan" works well for a description of skin color, especially in a fairy tale setting. It has those slightly pearl undertones to it, and European origin.

Myself, I am the color of oak wood, I think.

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Date: 2014-08-23 10:52 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] gingicat
My skin tone is basically "put brown-toned freckles and rosacea on baby Steve Rogers." How would you describe that in food metaphors?

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Date: 2014-08-23 11:11 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] catsittingstill
I wonder, though, if part of the point of the original post, was that white is seen as normal and not needing description and non-white as departing from the norm and needing to be described so that the reader knows in just what way it departs from the norm and how far.

I wonder what it would be like to read a story in which the default was black, and only the (handful of) white characters came in for elaboration about their skin tones.

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Date: 2014-08-23 12:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] peoriapeoriawhereart
Funny how those songs of nut-brown maids never made the transition from Scottish song to the American market. We may be talking acorns and pecans, but it's not all pails and basins of milk and cream.

"Whiteness" required a blindness because attention was reserved for the "Other". This is why that blindness is unveiled when the body is female. 'Alabaster' and 'saucer of milk' aren't typically attached to Marines.

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Date: 2014-08-24 12:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] brushwolf
All of this is far more poetic than describing human skin tones as some variety of red- or yellow-shifted orange. I myself am a very light, fairly desaturated yellow-orange. Admittedly it's a lot more fair but wow, it lacks romance.

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Date: 2014-08-23 02:39 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rowyn
I find white-people-skin annoying to describe because it's the such a wishy-washy color. It's not white. It's not even a shade of white, like cream or ivory (or mashed potatoes, or mayonnaise). It's a light yellow-orange. "Pale peach" is close. Apple sauce is close-ish too, although "the inside of an apple" is way too pale unless one is describing a Caucasian vampire or corpse. Baked (and not dyed) marzipan is probably about right too.

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Date: 2014-08-23 08:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marina-bonomi.livejournal.com
I've used 'chalky' forsomeone I saw with...well, the Northern/British version of a very light skin tone, no olive or pink tinge visible (at the time I wondered whether the lady in question might have been ill), and, in winter, I've been described as 'mozzarella'- or 'meadow mushroom'-colored (pale with a greenish undertone).

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Date: 2014-08-23 01:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeriendhal.livejournal.com
I think I'm glad I stick to writing Furry characters for the most part.

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Date: 2014-08-24 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valarltd.livejournal.com
I got in trouble for creamy. I used it too close to where I described her bosom as "mounds." So the reviewer got hung up on her creamy mounds...

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Date: 2014-08-25 07:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] westrider.livejournal.com
I've actually seen a similar comparison with ground beef used. I think by Warren Ellis, but I'm not sure.

Finally, the perfect occasion...

Date: 2014-08-25 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rowangolightly.livejournal.com
...in which to tell my skin tone anecdote.

Prefaced with a bit if info: I am a true mutt. My ancestry is Scottish, Irish, English, Welsh, German, Navajo, Cherokee and Mohawk. This is not in descending order because the only ancestry I know for certain is that my Dad's Grandmother was German, his father was Irish and Scottish and that my Mother's Grandmother was an Irish woman straight off the boat who married a Cherokee saddle maker and that my Mother's Father was full Navajo (a fact we didn't discover until about 15 years ago and a fact which, oddly, ended my sister's marriage.)

All that to say that even though I am 1/4 Navajo, I am white. Although I am a bottle redhead, I have a true redhead's physicality, skin tone and temperament.

I have always quipped that my skin tone is "underside of dead fish white" which, while not quite accurate, always gets a laugh.

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