>> this is skeptic7, if Phil is doing plum-blossom poles he is really really bored and doesn't have any sense of self preservation. <<
These things are true, but ...
>> Wouldn't it be safer to study Improvise Explosive Bomb building? <<
When properly done, plum-blossom training is not as dangerous as some people make it out to be. Sure you can kill yourself with it. You can also kill yourself cleaning a gun if you are stupid with it.
I didn't actually find a reference for the proper sequence, but I do remember how it works. You start with flat circles drawn on the ground, and you learn the patterns of motion. When you can do those without making mistakes, you move up to the bowls. You will fall off the bowls a lot. About the most you could do is maybe sprain a wrist or ankle, but if you are doing martial arts at all then you should have learned safe falling first, so if you sprain something you probably deserve it and need to spend a month reviewing how to fall, after you have healed. Mostly you will just get bruises. Once you can pattern perfectly on the bowls, you move to fixed piles, which are short and pretty wide and won't budge. If you fall off them and hit one on the way down, you might break an arm or your head. When you can pattern perfectly on the short piles, you move up to taller ones. Yes, if you fall off those you could kill yourself, but you've been practicing slowly so you know how not to. Eventually you move to unfixed poles, and you start back with short ones again, because you will fall off them a lot. When you learn now not to tip over the short ones, you move to taller ones. The really cool set of plum-blossom poles has about a dozen pairs in heights from around one foot to twelve feet, and you go back and forth to climb up them like stairs.
I've seen ninjas climb the unfixed plum blossom poles like stairs. The other martial artists couldn't get past the first or second level before falling off. I rather suspect that ninjas have their own exercises for balance training that probably differ. The step-by-step version is more akin to shaolin, and they still use the fixed piles occasionally.
Consider that Phil was able to climb flimsy convenience store shelves. He may not have a sense of self-preservation, but he does have patience and precision.
>> SHIELD medical must have a form which basically goes "You have been assigned to a remedial physical excersize program, do not do anything more dangerous until your instructors have signed off that you have adequate balance, spatial awareness and core muscle strength. Your recent injuries are caused by pushing past your physical abilities" <<
*laugh* They probably print that one on big pads and keep it next to the prescription pads. Because a lot of SHIELD agents are going to identify their limits, and then barrel right past them.
It's interesting that neither Steve nor Bruce will put up with that among the Avengers. Steve has done a very methodical and sensible job of devising exercise and training routines that work for a mixed team with very different ability levels. Bruce is serious about safety. JARVIS too, really, he's the one keeping a sharp eye on the whole tower, and logging when the gym equipment breaks so it can be upgraded.
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Date: 2014-08-15 10:16 pm (UTC)These things are true, but ...
>> Wouldn't it be safer to study Improvise Explosive Bomb building? <<
When properly done, plum-blossom training is not as dangerous as some people make it out to be. Sure you can kill yourself with it. You can also kill yourself cleaning a gun if you are stupid with it.
I didn't actually find a reference for the proper sequence, but I do remember how it works. You start with flat circles drawn on the ground, and you learn the patterns of motion. When you can do those without making mistakes, you move up to the bowls. You will fall off the bowls a lot. About the most you could do is maybe sprain a wrist or ankle, but if you are doing martial arts at all then you should have learned safe falling first, so if you sprain something you probably deserve it and need to spend a month reviewing how to fall, after you have healed. Mostly you will just get bruises. Once you can pattern perfectly on the bowls, you move to fixed piles, which are short and pretty wide and won't budge. If you fall off them and hit one on the way down, you might break an arm or your head. When you can pattern perfectly on the short piles, you move up to taller ones. Yes, if you fall off those you could kill yourself, but you've been practicing slowly so you know how not to. Eventually you move to unfixed poles, and you start back with short ones again, because you will fall off them a lot. When you learn now not to tip over the short ones, you move to taller ones. The really cool set of plum-blossom poles has about a dozen pairs in heights from around one foot to twelve feet, and you go back and forth to climb up them like stairs.
I've seen ninjas climb the unfixed plum blossom poles like stairs. The other martial artists couldn't get past the first or second level before falling off. I rather suspect that ninjas have their own exercises for balance training that probably differ. The step-by-step version is more akin to shaolin, and they still use the fixed piles occasionally.
Consider that Phil was able to climb flimsy convenience store shelves. He may not have a sense of self-preservation, but he does have patience and precision.
>> SHIELD medical must have a form which basically goes "You have been assigned to a remedial physical excersize program, do not do anything more dangerous until your instructors have signed off that you have adequate balance, spatial awareness and core muscle strength. Your recent injuries are caused by pushing past your physical abilities" <<
*laugh* They probably print that one on big pads and keep it next to the prescription pads. Because a lot of SHIELD agents are going to identify their limits, and then barrel right past them.
It's interesting that neither Steve nor Bruce will put up with that among the Avengers. Steve has done a very methodical and sensible job of devising exercise and training routines that work for a mixed team with very different ability levels. Bruce is serious about safety. JARVIS too, really, he's the one keeping a sharp eye on the whole tower, and logging when the gym equipment breaks so it can be upgraded.