>> Is it because Nick Fury is black, though? I'm not seeing it that way. <<
Fury's ethnicity made certain moves and interpretations possible, whereas a white character would probably have been targeted in a different way and had a different reaction to the scenario. I liked how Cap 2 addressed these issues.
>> Nick Fury is a totally different man than Sam Wilson; Sam focused on HELPING OTHERS after dealing with the awful crap he went through as a soldier. <<
Agreed. And that's a key difference between heroes ("Nobody should ever have to go through this.") and villains ("I'll show you fuckers, nobody's gonna mess with ME again and I'm gonna get MY turn on the top!").
>> Nick Fury, also a soldier, also went through awful crap. His solution was vastly different: become the kind of bully NO ONE wanted to take on, just to "guarantee" it didn't happen to him again. Except, of course, that makes him the perpetrator of awful crap for others. <<
Exactly.
>> I'm not denying that there's still racism in the way entertainment portrays blacks.
I'm denying the idea that it's the ONLY lens through which to view Fury's craptastic decisions. <<
It's not the only way. I just think it's relevant.
>> Who says the job is left to Steve and Natasha? <<
Prior to Cap 2, almost all the Bucky-rescue stories featured Steve or Nat or both in the savior role. The new movie gives us a new rescuer. I like that. I like Sam. He's compassionate without being weak.
>> Not talking about the movie-- spoiler city, right now-- but why is there ANY implication that Bucky could or would turn to Steve after the things he did as the Winter Soldier? <<
1) Bucky doesn't have anywhere else to go.
2) He's a friggin' homing pigeon and so is Steve. They're always going to be drawn together.
3) Bucky knows that Steve sees the best in everyone and tries to save everyone.
4) They love each other.
5) Hometime advantage.
There are a million reasons.
>> Bucky "let them both down". My prediction is that the next official canon will have Bucky on his own, trying to figure out his life and what to do next, while he lands in a storm of epic-superhero-proportions and just has to become a "hero" because no one else is doing anything but running scared. <<
That's entirely possible.
>> I just hope they tackle the plot more effectively than the Wolverine movie with the motorbike, y'know? Marvel really can't seem to develop a CHARACTER well enough to pull off the solo-identity-crisis theme AT ALL, let alone well! <<
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Date: 2014-05-06 02:11 am (UTC)Fury's ethnicity made certain moves and interpretations possible, whereas a white character would probably have been targeted in a different way and had a different reaction to the scenario. I liked how Cap 2 addressed these issues.
>> Nick Fury is a totally different man than Sam Wilson; Sam focused on HELPING OTHERS after dealing with the awful crap he went through as a soldier. <<
Agreed. And that's a key difference between heroes ("Nobody should ever have to go through this.") and villains ("I'll show you fuckers, nobody's gonna mess with ME again and I'm gonna get MY turn on the top!").
>> Nick Fury, also a soldier, also went through awful crap. His solution was vastly different: become the kind of bully NO ONE wanted to take on, just to "guarantee" it didn't happen to him again. Except, of course, that makes him the perpetrator of awful crap for others. <<
Exactly.
>> I'm not denying that there's still racism in the way entertainment portrays blacks.
I'm denying the idea that it's the ONLY lens through which to view Fury's craptastic decisions. <<
It's not the only way. I just think it's relevant.
>> Who says the job is left to Steve and Natasha? <<
Prior to Cap 2, almost all the Bucky-rescue stories featured Steve or Nat or both in the savior role. The new movie gives us a new rescuer. I like that. I like Sam. He's compassionate without being weak.
>> Not talking about the movie-- spoiler city, right now-- but why is there ANY implication that Bucky could or would turn to Steve after the things he did as the Winter Soldier? <<
1) Bucky doesn't have anywhere else to go.
2) He's a friggin' homing pigeon and so is Steve. They're always going to be drawn together.
3) Bucky knows that Steve sees the best in everyone and tries to save everyone.
4) They love each other.
5) Hometime advantage.
There are a million reasons.
>> Bucky "let them both down". My prediction is that the next official canon will have Bucky on his own, trying to figure out his life and what to do next, while he lands in a storm of epic-superhero-proportions and just has to become a "hero" because no one else is doing anything but running scared. <<
That's entirely possible.
>> I just hope they tackle the plot more effectively than the Wolverine movie with the motorbike, y'know? Marvel really can't seem to develop a CHARACTER well enough to pull off the solo-identity-crisis theme AT ALL, let alone well! <<
Yeah.