He did win that once, in terms of leaving Betty because he felt that Hulk made a relationship unsafe to the point of impossibility. It was a fucking stupid idea that broke Bruce-and-Hulk, upset Betty, and nearly destroyed the Earth. So no, she is never going to listen to him on that topic again. He couldn't pry her off with a crowbar now. Also Hulk is on Betty's side in that regard, so Bruce is outnumbered. He can throw whatever tantrum he wants, it's not gonna happen.
I actually have a story completed, which is primarily interaction between Hulk and JARVIS prior to game night, but it includes several tidbits about Betty because that's the only other person who was ever nice to Hulk.
>> As difficult as it will be for Bruce in particular to come to grips with Hulk, they NEED each other. <<
Agreed. They will be so much happier -- and more powerful -- once they make up.
>> They're no more viable right now than conjoined twins joined at the spine. <<
They are conjoined twins. They just happen to be conjoined throughout their entire body. Based on what I've read -- and I've studied this phenomena for a different fictional context -- normally conjoined twins grow up with profound negotiation and cooperation skills. (If I ran the world, I would so hustle them to be diplomats.) The child abuse undercut that to the point that Bruce and Hulk are just now, barely, sort of, sometimes managing to agree on a few things as simple as "Smash the evil space dragon before it eats New York." A merely ordinary level of cooperation isn't enough for people whose lives are so thoroughly intertwined. They need to get it up to epic, and they are starting at "fucking hopeless disaster" level.
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Re: Phil in Canon- recruiting Bruce
Date: 2014-04-23 02:51 am (UTC)He did win that once, in terms of leaving Betty because he felt that Hulk made a relationship unsafe to the point of impossibility. It was a fucking stupid idea that broke Bruce-and-Hulk, upset Betty, and nearly destroyed the Earth. So no, she is never going to listen to him on that topic again. He couldn't pry her off with a crowbar now. Also Hulk is on Betty's side in that regard, so Bruce is outnumbered. He can throw whatever tantrum he wants, it's not gonna happen.
I actually have a story completed, which is primarily interaction between Hulk and JARVIS prior to game night, but it includes several tidbits about Betty because that's the only other person who was ever nice to Hulk.
>> As difficult as it will be for Bruce in particular to come to grips with Hulk, they NEED each other. <<
Agreed. They will be so much happier -- and more powerful -- once they make up.
>> They're no more viable right now than conjoined twins joined at the spine. <<
They are conjoined twins. They just happen to be conjoined throughout their entire body. Based on what I've read -- and I've studied this phenomena for a different fictional context -- normally conjoined twins grow up with profound negotiation and cooperation skills. (If I ran the world, I would so hustle them to be diplomats.) The child abuse undercut that to the point that Bruce and Hulk are just now, barely, sort of, sometimes managing to agree on a few things as simple as "Smash the evil space dragon before it eats New York." A merely ordinary level of cooperation isn't enough for people whose lives are so thoroughly intertwined. They need to get it up to epic, and they are starting at "fucking hopeless disaster" level.
You can see why it's taking so long.