>> SHIELD may be taking the view that, since they're espionage, their job is to keep people alive and get them through the current crisis, then--hopefully-hook them up with resources later.<<
That is likely true. However, look at the amount of damage they do and the people they associate with (e.g. the World Council who thought it was fine to nuke New York). This does not validate their view as a rational or helpful one.
Second, that shortsighted view is a serious problem in medicine, especially emergency medicine. One article was as explict as dividing problems into three categories: "things that will kill your patient immediately, things that will kill your patient today, and things you don't really care about." They mean that. If they butcher someone's boundaries, bodies, and mental health but deliver the body breathing to the ER, that's all they care about. If the person stumbles in front of a bus due to trauma-caused brain fog or commits suicide to escape the suffering, well, that's not the EMT's problem. But as far as I'm concerned, it's as much their responsibility if they couldn't be arsed to wash their hands and the patient died of an infection a couple weeks later. Part of good care means not making matters worse by causing preventable harm.
Look at government and espionage. Their misbehavior makes a lot of baby terrorists. That's a real and serious problem, and it's everyone's problem.
>> That might be why they sent Phil to Tony, so he could have a handler, since he needed that kind of personal help. It's not an uncommon view in first responders, and it often fails at the second part, like I imagine SHIELD does.<<
Which leads directly to things like Tony treating months of extreme trauma with "Get them out of here, and get me a cheeseburger," then going to home to do mad science on himself. I don't call that a ringing endorsement of their strategy.
And what do we have in local-America? A medical industry that's plummeted from an already dismal 33% approval rating to even lower (I saw 11% in one article) and people who self-medicate because they can't get care or have been abused to the point they avoid it. Not what I would call an acceptable outcome either.
>> And yes, Bruce-and-Hulk seem like Bruce has been reading up on medical ethics from patients' POV and both of them are applying it in real time.<<
I think part of that is because they've both been trampled so much, they don't want to do that to anyone else.
Re: Why I love Phil--
Date: 2023-08-12 03:42 am (UTC)That is likely true. However, look at the amount of damage they do and the people they associate with (e.g. the World Council who thought it was fine to nuke New York). This does not validate their view as a rational or helpful one.
Second, that shortsighted view is a serious problem in medicine, especially emergency medicine. One article was as explict as dividing problems into three categories: "things that will kill your patient immediately, things that will kill your patient today, and things you don't really care about." They mean that. If they butcher someone's boundaries, bodies, and mental health but deliver the body breathing to the ER, that's all they care about. If the person stumbles in front of a bus due to trauma-caused brain fog or commits suicide to escape the suffering, well, that's not the EMT's problem. But as far as I'm concerned, it's as much their responsibility if they couldn't be arsed to wash their hands and the patient died of an infection a couple weeks later. Part of good care means not making matters worse by causing preventable harm.
Look at government and espionage. Their misbehavior makes a lot of baby terrorists. That's a real and serious problem, and it's everyone's problem.
>> That might be why they sent Phil to Tony, so he could have a handler, since he needed that kind of personal help. It's not an uncommon view in first responders, and it often fails at the second part, like I imagine SHIELD does.<<
Which leads directly to things like Tony treating months of extreme trauma with "Get them out of here, and get me a cheeseburger," then going to home to do mad science on himself. I don't call that a ringing endorsement of their strategy.
And what do we have in local-America? A medical industry that's plummeted from an already dismal 33% approval rating to even lower (I saw 11% in one article) and people who self-medicate because they can't get care or have been abused to the point they avoid it. Not what I would call an acceptable outcome either.
>> And yes, Bruce-and-Hulk seem like Bruce has been reading up on medical ethics from patients' POV and both of them are applying it in real time.<<
I think part of that is because they've both been trampled so much, they don't want to do that to anyone else.