>>There was just something about the vicious, almost feral 'no holds barred' personalities that I liked in both cases.<<
Feral is quite close, since both of them lost parents at an early age.
>> Even if the contemplation of the sheer hell they would unleash on the universe makes me shiver in dread. <<
Essentially what we have here is a dark!fic AU of the original series. I think that's a very interesting place to go ...
>> I can tell you one thing, the whole Khan fuckup will NEVER happen in the new universe, because Spock and Kirk would just straight up kill the bastard, none of that exile bullshit. <<
... and I've heard that Khan is supposed to appear, which disappoints me. I would prefer to take this AU in new directions rather than try to redo old favorites too closely. *ponder* Although it would be interesting if they simply killed Khan right up front and then some other thing went horribly wrong.
>>My problem comes from the fact that I have ... issues ... when it comes to aggressive, dominant/domineering men with unpredictable tempers. Much as I love him on paper, in person Wolverine would have *every* red flag I've got raised.<<
Fair enough. I have limits in that direction, but mine are farther out. I've actually made friends just by not being afraid of people.
>> Actually, I don't think Phil knew. <<
It can be read either way.
>> And for once, I don't think there was a Fury-style plot afoot, because things were moving fast as hell, people were getting shot at and actually shot, shit was blowing up, etc. <<
True.
>> Add in the fact that Loki isn't human, and I seriously doubt 'you know, Loki looked like shit. Maybe he's being brainwashed?' occurred to either of them at all, nevermind strongly enough to mention it to anyone else. <<
Likely so, but it leaves an unfortunate gap in the "how do we stop this guy?" problem-solving routine. If you can identify which enemies will quit being a problem if you offer them a way out, that saves a tremendous amount of work and worry on everyone's part. But it's a rare skill among troubleshooters.
>> By the time Phil actually laid eyes on Loki, his appearance had improved somewhat, so he looked a lot less like the walking dead. <<
Yet Phil still managed to put his finger squarely on one of Loki's core issues, and if he identified the 'what' then the 'why' leads to a limited number of possibilities. And Phil already had an idea of how Thor got messed up, which provides major clues to Loki.
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Re: Thoughts
Date: 2013-05-04 11:14 pm (UTC)Feral is quite close, since both of them lost parents at an early age.
>> Even if the contemplation of the sheer hell they would unleash on the universe makes me shiver in dread. <<
Essentially what we have here is a dark!fic AU of the original series. I think that's a very interesting place to go ...
>> I can tell you one thing, the whole Khan fuckup will NEVER happen in the new universe, because Spock and Kirk would just straight up kill the bastard, none of that exile bullshit. <<
... and I've heard that Khan is supposed to appear, which disappoints me. I would prefer to take this AU in new directions rather than try to redo old favorites too closely. *ponder* Although it would be interesting if they simply killed Khan right up front and then some other thing went horribly wrong.
>>My problem comes from the fact that I have ... issues ... when it comes to aggressive, dominant/domineering men with unpredictable tempers. Much as I love him on paper, in person Wolverine would have *every* red flag I've got raised.<<
Fair enough. I have limits in that direction, but mine are farther out. I've actually made friends just by not being afraid of people.
>> Actually, I don't think Phil knew. <<
It can be read either way.
>> And for once, I don't think there was a Fury-style plot afoot, because things were moving fast as hell, people were getting shot at and actually shot, shit was blowing up, etc. <<
True.
>> Add in the fact that Loki isn't human, and I seriously doubt 'you know, Loki looked like shit. Maybe he's being brainwashed?' occurred to either of them at all, nevermind strongly enough to mention it to anyone else. <<
Likely so, but it leaves an unfortunate gap in the "how do we stop this guy?" problem-solving routine. If you can identify which enemies will quit being a problem if you offer them a way out, that saves a tremendous amount of work and worry on everyone's part. But it's a rare skill among troubleshooters.
>> By the time Phil actually laid eyes on Loki, his appearance had improved somewhat, so he looked a lot less like the walking dead. <<
Yet Phil still managed to put his finger squarely on one of Loki's core issues, and if he identified the 'what' then the 'why' leads to a limited number of possibilities. And Phil already had an idea of how Thor got messed up, which provides major clues to Loki.