Amen. The moment that hit me hardest? Was when he was talking to Natasha in the hut, and said something to the effect of 'we don't always get what we want' and then *rocked the cradle*. Now, sure, you could take his words as 'yeah, I really don't want to go with you', and it's not even *wrong*, but that cradle move adds about ten more possible layers of subtext without Ruffalo having said a *thing*. Goddamned genius, right there. And from everything I've heard since the movie came out, that moment was NOT scripted. Ruffalo just took advantage of a prop present.
>>It's easy to miss if you don't know the fields involved, because people expect Tony to be a theorist because he's rich.<<
I actually didn't come at it from that angle. Though you're absolutely right about the forging. That said, I suspect Tony's poorskillz as you call it came about *despite* Howard. Or TO spite him. I can see Howard being all 'you're a Stark, Starks don't get their hands dirty' (The closest we see Howard to that is with the Tesseract fragment. Now he *might* have done his own work, especially during the War, but by the time Tony came around ... I'm thinking not so much) and Tony going 'I am going to get as dirty as humanly possible. Nyah!'
I just realized as I was typing that Tony is a troll. He deliberately antagonizes god and everyone, sometimes playfully, sometimes not. Thing is, to be a successful troll, you have to be able to read people like *whoah*, which means knowing body language. And Tony is a spectacularly successful troll, both in instigating responses from people and in NOT having those responses be 'punch Tony in the face' unless he *wants* that to be the reaction, like he did with Loki.
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Re: Thank you!
Date: 2013-04-28 05:36 am (UTC)>>Brilliant between-the-lines acting.<<
Amen. The moment that hit me hardest? Was when he was talking to Natasha in the hut, and said something to the effect of 'we don't always get what we want' and then *rocked the cradle*. Now, sure, you could take his words as 'yeah, I really don't want to go with you', and it's not even *wrong*, but that cradle move adds about ten more possible layers of subtext without Ruffalo having said a *thing*. Goddamned genius, right there. And from everything I've heard since the movie came out, that moment was NOT scripted. Ruffalo just took advantage of a prop present.
>>It's easy to miss if you don't know the fields involved, because people expect Tony to be a theorist because he's rich.<<
I actually didn't come at it from that angle. Though you're absolutely right about the forging. That said, I suspect Tony's poorskillz as you call it came about *despite* Howard. Or TO spite him. I can see Howard being all 'you're a Stark, Starks don't get their hands dirty' (The closest we see Howard to that is with the Tesseract fragment. Now he *might* have done his own work, especially during the War, but by the time Tony came around ... I'm thinking not so much) and Tony going 'I am going to get as dirty as humanly possible. Nyah!'
I just realized as I was typing that Tony is a troll. He deliberately antagonizes god and everyone, sometimes playfully, sometimes not. Thing is, to be a successful troll, you have to be able to read people like *whoah*, which means knowing body language. And Tony is a spectacularly successful troll, both in instigating responses from people and in NOT having those responses be 'punch Tony in the face' unless he *wants* that to be the reaction, like he did with Loki.