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Jan. 30th, 2026 02:59 pm
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Gray wolves are hunting sea otters and no one knows how

On a remote Alaskan island, gray wolves are rewriting the rulebook by hunting sea otters — a behavior few scientists ever expected to see. Researchers are now uncovering how these coastal wolves adapted to marine hunting, what it means for land–sea ecosystems, and whether this ancient predator–prey relationship is re-emerging as sea otters recover.


My best guess is that the wolves prey on sea otters during brief times the otters come ashore. Maybe on ice, which can work rather like land, but there is a lot less ice now than there used to be. It's hard to image a less-marine-adapted predator catching more-marine-adapted prey actually in the water. Then again, if that's happening, it would push the otters to move into waters the wolves can't reach -- which is one way that semi-aquatic species become fully-aquatic species.

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Date: 2026-01-30 09:06 pm (UTC)
siliconshaman: (W.T.F?)
From: [personal profile] siliconshaman
Grey wolves are actually fairly good swimmers too. Not as good as sea otters however, but still not entirely one-sided.

And as my Beloved pointed out, wolves eat fish and aren't too shabby at pouncing on things in the shallows.

That said... it's still W.T.F?!
Edited Date: 2026-01-30 09:09 pm (UTC)

Regardless of HOW

Date: 2026-01-31 12:03 am (UTC)
dialecticdreamer: My work (Default)
From: [personal profile] dialecticdreamer
The bigger questions all pivot around one word: WHY?

- Has the wolves' food supply gone so far toward starvation that it's purely survival?

- Have the otters become so numerous that they're easier prey than rabbits, who would be pushed out in the same coastal area as a result.

- Have the small (and not so small) climate changes due to global warming created a microclimate that favors one or the other, pushing the demand for food into a new area? (Yes, a glut of otters would entice wolves to hunt more systematically, not just opportunistically.)

- What OTHER species have increased or decreased in the same area, and WHY?

- There was a link to another research article about tool-using otters, largely female. WHY hasn't someone already made the connection that I did: more wolves culling the otters will give tool-using otters an even larger edge for survival, especially if they take their food and their tool a few feet farther into the water to avoid the risky shorelines. These two items SHOULD be approached with strong awareness of the counterpart research.

- The level of mercury amassing in the wolves' bodies has potentially catastrophic effects on both reproduction and survival. WHY wasn't there more than a paragraph of speculation in the article? I can think of a dozen ways to compare wolves' mercury exposure which is NOT going to injure the animal, but there was no mention of methodology, JUST the need for more data.

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Re: Regardless of HOW

Date: 2026-01-31 01:04 am (UTC)
dialecticdreamer: My work (Default)
From: [personal profile] dialecticdreamer
Point regarding funding.

HOWEVER.

College students are often willing to work a given number of hours in exchange for a college credit doing research directly connected to their major.

Have them:

1. Use copies of the raw data from the tool use research AND the mercury research to

- lay out geograpic maps of the data (yellow pins for mercury and green pins for tool use.
- Lay out a timeline of sightings/data collection points.
- Correlate the grids by terrain: saltwater deeper than 6', saltwater 6' down to 2' deep, shallows/shoreline, freshwater to 6' deep, freshwater deeper than 6', and "stable ground" with no permanent water features.
-Start checking the mercury data points for distance from the otter gathering points.

That way, using nothing but the EXISTING data, there's a temporal and a geographic snapshot. Then, if all of the heavy mercury exposures are among wolves who are NOT found in the areas where the otters are tagged, then the scientists already have a head start: the wolves are seeking out the otters as prey.

Using that data will give them a fulcrum point to leverage more research funding.

Yes, I suspect that wolves are developing a preference for otter meat. It's lean, (otters have no layer of blubber) BUT it's also very, very warm. That is an advantage to the wolves' digestion.
Edited (html error) Date: 2026-01-31 01:06 am (UTC)

Re: Regardless of HOW

Date: 2026-01-31 02:13 am (UTC)
dialecticdreamer: My work (Default)
From: [personal profile] dialecticdreamer
If I can frame a decent baseline study using existing data, without a college degree, then WHY is there so little genuine research going on? Shouldn't the professional scientists be more efficient?

Re: Regardless of HOW

Date: 2026-01-31 03:03 am (UTC)
dialecticdreamer: My work (Default)
From: [personal profile] dialecticdreamer
I've been less lonely since getting online to socialize, that's for sure.

As for the scientists-- it's about maximizing resources, and the effectiveness of their research goals given a shoestring budget. THAT is not the same kind of intelligence, really, but I could do that, too, without putting in a per-week coffee kitty.

There are ways to continue to research on even the slimmest budget. Collective computing projects, like the SETI screensaver that we were delighted to support, is only one example.

I worry that the American scientific community has learned the attitude that without the full funding from the public teat, the research isn't worth doing. Which is exactly the opposite of the best scientific attitudes: do what you can with what you have. It will be slower, but it won't be useless.

Re: Regardless of HOW

Date: 2026-01-31 06:49 am (UTC)
dialecticdreamer: My work (Default)
From: [personal profile] dialecticdreamer
Diploma mills. Fraudulent papers, which DO happen beyond the borders of China and Pakistan. Paid research slanted (folded, spindled, and mutilated) to say what the sponsor wishes.

Where did the scientific method go?

Where's the integrity?

Now? NOW I feel OLD.

Re: Regardless of HOW

Date: 2026-01-31 09:57 am (UTC)
dialecticdreamer: My work (Default)
From: [personal profile] dialecticdreamer
The sad part is that it's not the calendar age that makes me feel out of step with 2026 society, nor the gray hair; it's that I still hold STRONG ethical lines and expect that eighty percent or more of the people that I interact with will have that same intent, even if our precise ethics vary.

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Date: 2026-01-31 07:01 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pronker
Otters are very curious, so perhaps wolves trick them closer with an attracting agent of some sort? A waggling tail, maybe?

Re: Hmm ...

Date: 2026-01-31 10:07 am (UTC)
dialecticdreamer: My work (Default)
From: [personal profile] dialecticdreamer
A raft of otters stays close together. They also sleep 11 of 24 hours on average. So, they're pretty soft targets, even before considering the mothers with young.

Wolves could coordinate an attack that drives them toward the shore, and o a lot of damage to the collective, even if they don't collect more than they usually do while hunting rabbits.

Otters use rocks as tools, and store them in a fold of skin under their front arms. Can they make the leap from "this is a good portable striking surface" --because they bring the clam down on the rock, not the other way around-- to the idea "throwing this striking surface at a wolf will hurt them"?

If the otters can do that, your war is o.v.e.r. Over.

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Date: 2026-01-31 10:12 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] abyssal_sylph
>>which is one way that semi-aquatic species become fully-aquatic species.<<

I'm now imagining a subspecies of grey wolves becoming semi-aquatic, if the otters don't become fully aquatic in the meantime.

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