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People have expressed interest in deep topics, so this list focuses on philosophical questions.

Is it possible that some animals are self-aware and think about their ability to think?


Some animals have proven self-awareness. There's a whole field of testing for that sort of thing, and each test typically looks for a specific aspect of the self. For example, the mark test measures visual self-image, which multiple species have passed. Animals can lie in various ways. Some are passive, like camouflage pretending to be an inert object. Active lying, such as pretending to hide food or toys in a decoy location while being watched, suggests a theory of mind -- that the animal knows someone is watching and thinking about their prize, so they attempt to manipulate that other mind's awareness to retain the prize. Here are some examples of animals lying.

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Date: 2024-02-11 05:27 am (UTC)
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I don't know about thinking about their ability to think, but one of my kittens understands that mirror cat is not another cat, and that it is a reflectionrather than a window. If a wave a ribbon toy behind her so that it shows in the mirror, she will whirl around to leap at it as it hangs from my hand, rather than leaping at the dancing ribbons in the mirror.

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Date: 2024-02-11 12:40 pm (UTC)
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It's not scientific evidence, but I was sitting with K'zin (my wing cat of fond memory) curled up next to me and jokingly asked if he loved me... he stopped purring, sat up and stared at me for a few seconds with what I could only characterise as a thoughtful expression, then did a flop-roll-cuddle and purred up a storm.

Pretty sure he actually thought about it for a second and the answer was a heartfelt yes! Which I'm convinced shows he was capable of thinking about his own state of mind.

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Date: 2024-02-13 12:23 am (UTC)
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That sounds like my Sophia-cat. Her vocal apparatus may not have been able to shape English, but she certainly understood it!

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