>> Sorry if they're a bit glum, I'm kinda stressed today. <<
Bummer. Hugs offered.
>> If you need the terminology, for training or whatever else, you can learn. From a practical standpoint, until you learn, most people can do just as well with a description of the problem.<<
Generally true.
>> And strictly speaking, you don't need a fancy class, you mostly just need a list of terminology and a teacher who can explain it. (I've run through medical stuff and explained words to people before. Not doctor-level, but first aid.) <<
It's not what I'd call a fancy class. It just has the benefit of people to practice with and a teacher who knows how to pronounce and define the words. I suspect Cas will wind up in a catchall class where the teacher will just ask today's students what their training is and what they want to learn, then choose vocabulary to suit. I'm sure a college class on medical terminology would be more formal.
>> Mindfulness has some spiritual backing and some scientific benefit, <<
That is true.
>> but someone should really suggest box breathing. The explanation I got, first time I heard of it, was using breathing <<
Dr. G will suggest a variety of breathing techniques. It turns out that Cas does best with methods grounded in his physical body. The purely abstract stuff is harder for him because he pulls away from it.
>> (which is the only body function on both the 'voluntary' and 'involuntary' subdivisions of the nervous system to make the involuntary stuff chillax.) <<
Blinking is another.
>> I don't know if there are any friendly hotzone teleporters affiliated with the gang, but that would be another backup option. <<
Not directly with the gang, but they do have the Italians for backup. I agree that a hotzone teleporter for the gang would be a great addition. Bear in mind, though, that human ambulance is a separate and pretty elite skill. Not everyone's style of teleporting is compatible at all, and not many have enough finesse to move injured people without making it worse.
>> Terramagne is much nicer than here, <<
It is.
>> if an ex-street kid is that optimistic. O.O <<
Cas isn't really a street kid. He grew up in bohemia. He's been knocked around a bit, but nowhere near the systemic abuse that Shiv survived. Also, Cas is just generally warm-hearted. Shiv has a tendency to view people as wallets with feet.
>> We need kind hearts and we need pragmatists.<<
Very true.
A key difference between T-American first aid and here is that they sequence things, but they don't leave off the later steps. Here, paramedics don't care if their behavior gives someone PTSD that turns lethal 6 months later. It won't reflect on them and they won't be punished for it. They're as slovenly with mental wounds as if they didn't bother washing physical ones. The results are appalling.
T-America tends to treat problems in the order they would threaten life or limb. Stop the heavy bleeding first, get the victim stable and in an ambulance, then if there's time check for emotional or psychological injuries. If you pull a live person out a car with a dead person in it, you can bet on emotional injuries and you write that on the tag. Someone at the hospital will follow up by offering mental care. They don't wait until someone's life is already falling apart before considering it time to offer help.
Consider how the Italians responded. They scraped up both Ned and Cas, handed off Ned to the healers -- and made sure someone was there to catch Cas, because they expected him to need care after a case like that.
>> Think of improvising supplies as poorskillz.<<
Absolutely.
>> Also, he might want to take an animal first aid course sometime.<<
That's an excellent idea. Come to think of it, the gang has a veterinarian in the loop, who is also part of their medical backup. I'm sure he could teach a class.
>> Wasn't the farm in Bluehill going to do a soup first aid course for the centaurs? <<
They did indeed.
>> Things can always get worse. <<
One of my favorite quotes is from Suzette Haden Elgin: "No problem is bad that panic can't make it a lot worse."
>>Like matted hair on a cat, everything just sticks together in a big, felted lump.<<
Yep. You have to find the mat and carefully pull the other hairs away from it to get it loose.
>> I think I might be jealous, if my emotions weren't felted at the moment. <<
Yeah, me too. Boss Blaster is running with real estate levels of finance, and can afford to stock a whole patch room. Cas is only months from begging and stealing to survive. This is a stretch for him.
>> (I once had to design a first aid kit where the icepack doubled as dinner, and this was after running a crisis.) <<
They have the Green Beans of Healing in the freezer, because one batch of free food had awful green beans. After tasting one batch, the other bag had a red cross drawn on it. Can't say as I blame them.
>> Does Cas habitually carry a tote, diaper bag or purse? <<
Not habitually, no, although he presumably has a diaper bag for Hali. I don't think I've ever seen him carrying one.
>> With CPR I once had it explained to me as: "They are already dead. You cannot make them more dead." <<
Mostly true, or at least, close enough to be worth using. It is possible to change someone from revivifiable to nonrevivifiable, but there's only about 4 minutes of oxygen before the brain starts dying. It's better to do CPR than not, even if you're inept.
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Date: 2021-11-22 03:00 am (UTC)Yay!
>> Sorry if they're a bit glum, I'm kinda stressed today. <<
Bummer. Hugs offered.
>> If you need the terminology, for training or whatever else, you can learn. From a practical standpoint, until you learn, most people can do just as well with a description of the problem.<<
Generally true.
>> And strictly speaking, you don't need a fancy class, you mostly just need a list of terminology and a teacher who can explain it. (I've run through medical stuff and explained words to people before. Not doctor-level, but first aid.) <<
It's not what I'd call a fancy class. It just has the benefit of people to practice with and a teacher who knows how to pronounce and define the words. I suspect Cas will wind up in a catchall class where the teacher will just ask today's students what their training is and what they want to learn, then choose vocabulary to suit. I'm sure a college class on medical terminology would be more formal.
>> Mindfulness has some spiritual backing and some scientific benefit, <<
That is true.
>> but someone should really suggest box breathing. The explanation I got, first time I heard of it, was using breathing <<
Dr. G will suggest a variety of breathing techniques. It turns out that Cas does best with methods grounded in his physical body. The purely abstract stuff is harder for him because he pulls away from it.
>> (which is the only body function on both the 'voluntary' and 'involuntary' subdivisions of the nervous system to make the involuntary stuff chillax.) <<
Blinking is another.
>> I don't know if there are any friendly hotzone teleporters affiliated with the gang, but that would be another backup option. <<
Not directly with the gang, but they do have the Italians for backup. I agree that a hotzone teleporter for the gang would be a great addition. Bear in mind, though, that human ambulance is a separate and pretty elite skill. Not everyone's style of teleporting is compatible at all, and not many have enough finesse to move injured people without making it worse.
>> Terramagne is much nicer than here, <<
It is.
>> if an ex-street kid is that optimistic. O.O <<
Cas isn't really a street kid. He grew up in bohemia. He's been knocked around a bit, but nowhere near the systemic abuse that Shiv survived. Also, Cas is just generally warm-hearted. Shiv has a tendency to view people as wallets with feet.
>> We need kind hearts and we need pragmatists.<<
Very true.
A key difference between T-American first aid and here is that they sequence things, but they don't leave off the later steps. Here, paramedics don't care if their behavior gives someone PTSD that turns lethal 6 months later. It won't reflect on them and they won't be punished for it. They're as slovenly with mental wounds as if they didn't bother washing physical ones. The results are appalling.
T-America tends to treat problems in the order they would threaten life or limb. Stop the heavy bleeding first, get the victim stable and in an ambulance, then if there's time check for emotional or psychological injuries. If you pull a live person out a car with a dead person in it, you can bet on emotional injuries and you write that on the tag. Someone at the hospital will follow up by offering mental care. They don't wait until someone's life is already falling apart before considering it time to offer help.
Consider how the Italians responded. They scraped up both Ned and Cas, handed off Ned to the healers -- and made sure someone was there to catch Cas, because they expected him to need care after a case like that.
>> Think of improvising supplies as poorskillz.<<
Absolutely.
>> Also, he might want to take an animal first aid course sometime.<<
That's an excellent idea. Come to think of it, the gang has a veterinarian in the loop, who is also part of their medical backup. I'm sure he could teach a class.
>> Wasn't the farm in Bluehill going to do a soup first aid course for the centaurs? <<
They did indeed.
>> Things can always get worse. <<
One of my favorite quotes is from Suzette Haden Elgin: "No problem is bad that panic can't make it a lot worse."
>>Like matted hair on a cat, everything just sticks together in a big, felted lump.<<
Yep. You have to find the mat and carefully pull the other hairs away from it to get it loose.
>> I think I might be jealous, if my emotions weren't felted at the moment. <<
Yeah, me too. Boss Blaster is running with real estate levels of finance, and can afford to stock a whole patch room. Cas is only months from begging and stealing to survive. This is a stretch for him.
>> (I once had to design a first aid kit where the icepack doubled as dinner, and this was after running a crisis.) <<
They have the Green Beans of Healing in the freezer, because one batch of free food had awful green beans. After tasting one batch, the other bag had a red cross drawn on it. Can't say as I blame them.
>> Does Cas habitually carry a tote, diaper bag or purse? <<
Not habitually, no, although he presumably has a diaper bag for Hali. I don't think I've ever seen him carrying one.
>> With CPR I once had it explained to me as: "They are already dead. You cannot make them more dead." <<
Mostly true, or at least, close enough to be worth using. It is possible to change someone from revivifiable to nonrevivifiable, but there's only about 4 minutes of oxygen before the brain starts dying. It's better to do CPR than not, even if you're inept.