>> Is the recovery aspect of BDSM something that Ricasso has experience with? It seems like he might given the other therapeutic aspects he is using with some of his gang. <<
Yes, and you can see bits of this in the poems already posted. What Lupe Hedone did to Gray was not sexual assault, but arguably some kind of sexual misconduct -- abandoning a bottom like that is downright dangerous. It would've trashed his sense of trust if he hadn't gotten into good hands immediately afterward. Ricasso did a great job of putting Gray back together. Same with handling the aftermath of torture: without excellent aftercare, that usually turns into PTSD. What Gray had was perfectly normal acute stress reaction, which mostly wore off after a few weeks.
Could Shiv handle working through his intimacy issues with kink? I have no idea. He is seriously messed up there.
I do want to put him with Ricasso and Pain's Gray, coming through the gang angle. They're a great match in many ways, although Shiv's couthless behavior is going to drive them up a wall. They'd be good at teaching him some new manners, though, and that's relevant to his potential for boss work. Certainly Gray's pain induction ability will appeal to Shiv, and Ricasso can probably teach him to cut things without needing a knife.
>> I liked this, it had the potential to go VERY very wrong there but it didn't which is pretty great. <<
Sooth. I'm glad it worked for you.
>> It makes me worried about the healthcare that Shiv is going to get once he's outside of the prison though, or even if he WOULD seek any kind of medical care unless the need was great enough<<
Shiv's experiences have been bad enough that he won't seek medical attention unless he is well and truly desperate. He's not even wrong: most doctors have zero experience treating soups and don't handle the divergence well. Happily, the justice system in T-America is much saner than here, so they'll pay attention to continuity of care. That means Dr. Bloch will do a lot of the work to set up some things for Shiv, like a card for free food at farmer's markets; and will also research potential contacts in Omaha. The hard part will be convincing Shiv to check out a local clinic in case he needs more help than his gang's patcher can provide. About as far as they'll probably get is "I'll think about it." But Dr. Bloch can also stay listed as Shiv's doctor; it's an option for cases when a departing inmate doesn't have and can't find anyone else. They don't want to leave people without any support.
>> to warrant someone attempting to force care on him which would suck quite badly for everyone.<<
At this point, the only ways to force Shiv to do things he doesn't want are:
* when he's unconscious, which is how he wound up in prison this time;
* wiretripping him so far into flashbacks that he can't defend himself effectively, which is what happened during the chayne incident; or
* if he thinks someone is so powerful or connected that they'll torment or kill him for resisting, which has happened several times regarding prison staff and visitors.
Shiv's response to sexual threats is very erratic, sometimes exaggerated and other times paralyzed. It's not good for anyone.
When it comes to medical threats, he is much more consistent and forceful about blocking or retaliating. The only person I'm sure of getting past that is Dr. Bloch -- and that turned into a whole new kind of trouble. A key difference is that Dr. Bloch recognized that trampling Shiv's boundaries had major drawbacks even if it was legal and possible. You can make something happen, but you can't make it work. Nobody wants to go there again, so Dr. Bloch is working on ways to shore up Shiv's consent enough to avoid a repetition.
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Re: hmmm
Date: 2016-11-30 05:08 pm (UTC)Yes, and you can see bits of this in the poems already posted. What Lupe Hedone did to Gray was not sexual assault, but arguably some kind of sexual misconduct -- abandoning a bottom like that is downright dangerous. It would've trashed his sense of trust if he hadn't gotten into good hands immediately afterward. Ricasso did a great job of putting Gray back together. Same with handling the aftermath of torture: without excellent aftercare, that usually turns into PTSD. What Gray had was perfectly normal acute stress reaction, which mostly wore off after a few weeks.
Could Shiv handle working through his intimacy issues with kink? I have no idea. He is seriously messed up there.
I do want to put him with Ricasso and Pain's Gray, coming through the gang angle. They're a great match in many ways, although Shiv's couthless behavior is going to drive them up a wall. They'd be good at teaching him some new manners, though, and that's relevant to his potential for boss work. Certainly Gray's pain induction ability will appeal to Shiv, and Ricasso can probably teach him to cut things without needing a knife.
>> I liked this, it had the potential to go VERY very wrong there but it didn't which is pretty great. <<
Sooth. I'm glad it worked for you.
>> It makes me worried about the healthcare that Shiv is going to get once he's outside of the prison though, or even if he WOULD seek any kind of medical care unless the need was great enough<<
Shiv's experiences have been bad enough that he won't seek medical attention unless he is well and truly desperate. He's not even wrong: most doctors have zero experience treating soups and don't handle the divergence well. Happily, the justice system in T-America is much saner than here, so they'll pay attention to continuity of care. That means Dr. Bloch will do a lot of the work to set up some things for Shiv, like a card for free food at farmer's markets; and will also research potential contacts in Omaha. The hard part will be convincing Shiv to check out a local clinic in case he needs more help than his gang's patcher can provide. About as far as they'll probably get is "I'll think about it." But Dr. Bloch can also stay listed as Shiv's doctor; it's an option for cases when a departing inmate doesn't have and can't find anyone else. They don't want to leave people without any support.
>> to warrant someone attempting to force care on him which would suck quite badly for everyone.<<
At this point, the only ways to force Shiv to do things he doesn't want are:
* when he's unconscious, which is how he wound up in prison this time;
* wiretripping him so far into flashbacks that he can't defend himself effectively, which is what happened during the chayne incident; or
* if he thinks someone is so powerful or connected that they'll torment or kill him for resisting, which has happened several times regarding prison staff and visitors.
Shiv's response to sexual threats is very erratic, sometimes exaggerated and other times paralyzed. It's not good for anyone.
When it comes to medical threats, he is much more consistent and forceful about blocking or retaliating. The only person I'm sure of getting past that is Dr. Bloch -- and that turned into a whole new kind of trouble. A key difference is that Dr. Bloch recognized that trampling Shiv's boundaries had major drawbacks even if it was legal and possible. You can make something happen, but you can't make it work. Nobody wants to go there again, so Dr. Bloch is working on ways to shore up Shiv's consent enough to avoid a repetition.