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The Solomon Islands are going under.  :(  This kind of thing has been predicted for some time, and poses a serious threat to island nations.

Meanwhile over in Terramagne, climate change is not as bad as here because people have done more to ameliorate it, but it's still a threat.  Hence the Republic of the Maldives seeking people with superpowers to help keep it above the waves.

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Date: 2016-05-09 12:52 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] earthspirits
Very sorry to hear this - I had no idea! That's quite disturbing.

Re: Well...

Date: 2016-05-10 02:54 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] earthspirits
Yes, I agree - and it's disturbing and upsetting on so many levels.

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Date: 2016-05-09 03:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redsixwing
Well, crap.

It's good that they're learning bits about wave erosion from this, but I suspect it's still going to be too little, too late.

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Date: 2016-05-08 08:59 pm (UTC)
ext_74: Baron Samadai in cat form (Default)
From: [identity profile] siliconshaman.livejournal.com
and there are still people who deny it's happening... Meantime, the Philippines [on behalf of the pacific nations] are bringing a class action suit against Exxon, BP, Shell and other oil companies, claiming that climate change violates their civil rights and they are culpably negligent having known about it for 45 years.

Interesting times we live in...

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Date: 2016-05-08 09:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] technoshaman.livejournal.com
I hope they rip Big Oil to shreds and put the C-level people's heads on pikes, as a reminder to the next ten generations that some power is not worth the price (pun intentional).

Yes...

Date: 2016-05-08 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ysabetwordsmith.livejournal.com
I have heard of several similar lawsuits. I think they have a low chance of success, as money tends to buy freedom from consequences, but I wish them well.

Re: Yes...

Date: 2016-05-08 10:32 pm (UTC)
ext_74: Baron Samadai in cat form (Default)
From: [identity profile] siliconshaman.livejournal.com
Money buys insulation from the reality of consequences. But even the best insulation eventually burns through...

Re: Yes...

Date: 2016-05-08 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ysabetwordsmith.livejournal.com
Money can protect people from legal and social consequences, and sadly, that is all that many of them care about. Without these prompt consequences, rich people and corporations tend to continue doing what pleases them.

Physical consquences are different. No matter how much you ignore the facts, they do not stop being true. Burning fossil fuels generates a lot of heat; heat melts ice; meltwater raises ocean levels; islands are going under and coastlines are eroding. That's the pesky thing about facts.

I should perhaps have gone into more detail earlier.

Re: Yes...

Date: 2016-05-09 11:40 am (UTC)
ext_74: Baron Samadai in cat form (Default)
From: [identity profile] siliconshaman.livejournal.com
Yeah, I know... what I meant was, their money can only protect them so far. Once the physical consequences become painfully obvious and affect a very large number of people, then there will be more of a public will to bring to account those responsible, and once that demand is strident enough, no amount of money will protect them.

Although, the fact that the rich tend to buy tropical islands, or put their money in banks there, which are then going to be badly affected by rising sea levels is just a nice touch of irony.

Re: Yes...

Date: 2016-05-09 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ysabetwordsmith.livejournal.com
>>Once the physical consequences become painfully obvious and affect a very large number of people, then there will be more of a public will to bring to account those responsible, and once that demand is strident enough, no amount of money will protect them.<<

I've seen one account of an executive firing people en masse. They turned into a mob and attacked him. Security barely got him out alive. It's an early sign. Later versions get ... messier.

>> Although, the fact that the rich tend to buy tropical islands, or put their money in banks there, which are then going to be badly affected by rising sea levels is just a nice touch of irony. <<

LOL yes. Especially when they also put their boltholes there.

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