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Everyone's all in a lather about the mess in Charlottesville.  I generally prefer to sidle around the attack and then counterattack directly at the opponent's fundamental goals. In this case, they want to promote racism and violence. So I can undermine their efforts by promoting:

Conversational Skills

http://www.mmsa.info/sites/default/files/downloads/pages/Tolerance.pdf (teaching)



African-American Poetry
My favorites include Maya Angelou, Robert Hayden, Alice Walker, Langston Hughes, and Phillis Wheatley.

If you want to poke a bigot in the eye, you can go shopping for things made by black writers or crafters, or you can buy multicultural-themed material from any author.  I've got a fluffy family dinner with multiple ethnicities in "Dinner at Donnie's" ($171) in Danso and Family.

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Date: 2017-08-18 03:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] we_are_spc
Can we just tell you that we've had to abstain from FB because now everyone wants all the Confederate stuff stripped from here (Statues, etc) because many blak folk feel like it's 'celebrating the losing sid'. (And yes, that was a real quote.

Then someone else was like...So if we're going to do that, then shouldn't we take down MLK stuff, too? Fair is fair.


ANd I say, this is petty shit. Petty, divisive bull shit.

No, leave the statues up; it's not 'glorifying' it's a reminder; some people need that.

Do I think slavery was wrong? Yes. Do I think what we did to the Natives was abhorant? Absolutely. But I am also of the opinion of once we start with the confederacy, it won't stop-and someone'll be able to make a case for just about *anything* that offends them.

These links are awesome, however, and I will be coming back to this post for a better look once we're not drowning under the mountain of school work we put on hold for our MBLEX.


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Date: 2017-08-29 02:23 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] johnpalmer
I won't argue in the bad sense with your feelings, but in the Monty Python manner ("a series of points intended to establish a proposition"), I'll discuss it a bit.

Heroes get statues - that's kind of the point of a statue in a public area, people can say "ah, yes, SoAndSo... children, do you know why SoAndSo was a great person? Let me tell you...."

I did see people dedicating a monument to the "unknown confederate soldier" - and I'm okay with that. The point of "unknown" soldiers is, there are some people who die without clear ID, and all you know is that they fought - and, by strict statistical certainty, some fought bravely and well, not for slavery, but because they felt, or feared, that others would harm their homeland.

The play Copenhagen illustrates how a person can feel a duty to try to help protect their home, even when they know it's entirely in the wrong. And for that sort of thing, I can give my respect.

The trouble is, the Civil War has been literally whitewashed - the entire issue was chattel slavery, and the fear of losing influence. Show me a non-slave-owning officer who fought bravely and well, and who, once the uprising was defeated, accepted that they were an American again, and tried to reconcile, and treated freed slaves as equals, and I'll be glad to let you celebrate them.

But not only were many in the South not-heroes, many were villains, and not [personal profile] ysabetwordsmith's type of villains.

It's not that they were horrible *people*. They were fighting for a horrible reason. If they get reverence, it should not be in the public square where we celebrate heroes.

If those statues were in a museum, where the horrors of slavery were presented, "but let us not forget, even in the service of a great evil, there can be nobility and courage" I'd be cool with that, for sure.

Finally, a lot of those statues went up to help solidify Jim Crow - to make a public spectacle and constant reminder that only the shooting war was over.

Great post

Date: 2017-08-20 02:47 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] winter_wolf_mi
I just want to say that I thought your post was a breath of fresh air. Among all the bickering and intolerance, it was nice to see someone actually offering a near neutral solution on how to ACTUALLY fix things.

Best Regards,
~ Winter ~


Date: 2017-08-20 03:30 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] winter_wolf_mi
Namaste koʻu hoahanau (my cousin,) namaste.

People call those of us who like to bend, weak; but sometimes it takes a WHOLE lot of strength. It eventually becomes second nature, but there are moments. [It's especially difficult for me at times to let go, since I was very young I've had a strong sense of seeking justice. (seeking justice does not equate revenge or violence.)]

Re: peace

Date: 2017-08-20 04:05 am (UTC)
winter_wolf_mi: a light colored wolf standing in the snow with either the moon or a densley cloud covered sun in the background (Default)
From: [personal profile] winter_wolf_mi
Some things don't translate well into other languages... and 'namaste' for me is a whole way of life. When I use 'cousin' in English, people tend to miss the Hawaiian cultural significance I attach to the word. (I use English if I'm referring to a blood relative... or verbally speaking. I totally trip over my tongue trying to actually speak Hawaiian.)

As to the rest of what you had to say... I so want to hug you! You have such an eloquent way of putting to words what I already feel.


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