There is a little shadow in any trickster figure (Irish saints, anyone?) though Erskine at least is using what he finds in Steve, and his words are to remind him that it's not what they are making of him, not the soldier Steve thinks he needs to be, but a good man that is going to be the deciding point.
There's been talk about the Extremis as presented in IM3 trending towards-- erasure.
And yet, was Steve that much different than the subjects? He couldn't see another route than soldier and Timmy with his wagon.
Erskine's test is pretty bailing wire, but Steve stating that he's not eager to kill Nazis, but to stop bullies, and if that means he needs to kill Nazis, so be it; it's more than Erskine could have wished for all laid out.
I don't think even Erskine grasped just what Steve could have brought to the table even if they'd just dealt with his chronic conditions-- admittedly, most people are like that cop, they need a demo before they will believe someone without all the 'signals' knows their stuff.
And yes, Bucky losing his lid at Tony is clearly Utter Panic. Post Stevie Trauma Diagnostics. Little kids used to die from all sorts of things we no longer have a visceral reaction to, even though some of the accidents might not have been. With Bucky booted up all wrong that day...
Good parallel catch.
Well, and because he doesn't want to have gotten this far and lose face with Peggy.
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Re: Not the only one
Date: 2013-09-20 02:08 pm (UTC)There's been talk about the Extremis as presented in IM3 trending towards-- erasure.
And yet, was Steve that much different than the subjects? He couldn't see another route than soldier and Timmy with his wagon.
Erskine's test is pretty bailing wire, but Steve stating that he's not eager to kill Nazis, but to stop bullies, and if that means he needs to kill Nazis, so be it; it's more than Erskine could have wished for all laid out.
I don't think even Erskine grasped just what Steve could have brought to the table even if they'd just dealt with his chronic conditions-- admittedly, most people are like that cop, they need a demo before they will believe someone without all the 'signals' knows their stuff.
And yes, Bucky losing his lid at Tony is clearly Utter Panic. Post Stevie Trauma Diagnostics. Little kids used to die from all sorts of things we no longer have a visceral reaction to, even though some of the accidents might not have been. With Bucky booted up all wrong that day...
Good parallel catch.
Well, and because he doesn't want to have gotten this far and lose face with Peggy.