>>They could bring a city to its knees in hours. They just aren't willing to walk off the job, which means in addition to getting screwed themselves, they also let the government abuse their patients.<<
I see it more as a hostage situation. You stay, and they treat you like crap. You leave, and your cartakee suffers and dies. (I think a lot of nurses, and especially those who stick it out, do care about their patients a whole lot.)
Think of it like domestic violence - some people stay because they don't feel they can leave, and some of those are staying out of concern for someone else (often, but not neccesarily kids).
Just because someone isn't leaving or fighting back, doesn't mean that they think their situation is good. And just because we don't agree with their choice to stay doesn't make it okay to condemn that choice.
Also? If nurses went fully on strike? How many people would die or suffer irreparable damage? How many of those people are totally helpless and cannot be saved by laypeople? NICU, ICU, anyone who gets waved right on through the Emergency Room...
If there's a way to fix it (by nurses or laypeople) I'm listening, but I want a way that won't lead to needless mass death.
And I know enough about human psychology to realize that I am reacting to a possible small and sudden group of deaths more than a far more massive group of deaths dispersed over a long stretch of time. But if I can't be convinced to abandon an instinctual bias despite recognizing its existence, then other people who don't analyze instinctive psychology and the emotional reactions therof definitely won't.
>>Well, duh. But it's already collapsing in rural areas. There aren't enough people to support ambulance services over wide areas. More and more hospitals are closing or consolidating. That means people have only one place to go, and if it sucks, they either choose to be abused, drive for hours if they can, or stay home.<<
I wonder if we should start training healthcare workers like they do in the Third World. Or maybe we'll go back to having a Jack-of-all-trades 'Doc' in every town like the old Westerns.
I am already in favor of First Aid training for everyone who is willing. Maybe making more advanced courses availible, or adding First Aid to high school curriculums would help as well.
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Re: Thoughts
Date: 2021-04-20 04:44 am (UTC)I see it more as a hostage situation. You stay, and they treat you like crap. You leave, and your cartakee suffers and dies. (I think a lot of nurses, and especially those who stick it out, do care about their patients a whole lot.)
Think of it like domestic violence - some people stay because they don't feel they can leave, and some of those are staying out of concern for someone else (often, but not neccesarily kids).
Just because someone isn't leaving or fighting back, doesn't mean that they think their situation is good. And just because we don't agree with their choice to stay doesn't make it okay to condemn that choice.
Also? If nurses went fully on strike? How many people would die or suffer irreparable damage? How many of those people are totally helpless and cannot be saved by laypeople? NICU, ICU, anyone who gets waved right on through the Emergency Room...
If there's a way to fix it (by nurses or laypeople) I'm listening, but I want a way that won't lead to needless mass death.
And I know enough about human psychology to realize that I am reacting to a possible small and sudden group of deaths more than a far more massive group of deaths dispersed over a long stretch of time. But if I can't be convinced to abandon an instinctual bias despite recognizing its existence, then other people who don't analyze instinctive psychology and the emotional reactions therof definitely won't.
>>Well, duh. But it's already collapsing in rural areas. There aren't enough people to support ambulance services over wide areas. More and more hospitals are closing or consolidating. That means people have only one place to go, and if it sucks, they either choose to be abused, drive for hours if they can, or stay home.<<
I wonder if we should start training healthcare workers like they do in the Third World. Or maybe we'll go back to having a Jack-of-all-trades 'Doc' in every town like the old Westerns.
I am already in favor of First Aid training for everyone who is willing. Maybe making more advanced courses availible, or adding First Aid to high school curriculums would help as well.