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ysabetwordsmith ([personal profile] ysabetwordsmith) wrote2021-06-13 03:49 am

Maybe-Colors for Unisex Dressing

Previously I mentioned the use of maybe-colors in unisex or nonbinary dressing, so I decided to list some examples. The neutrals (black-gray-white in cool, brown-tan-ivory in warm) are unisex, but most people want accent colors. There are also some oddball neutrals that mix warm and cool tones.


Maybe-Colors

Amber
The stone amber is fossilized tree resin, which is most often yellow to orange, so amber as a color usually means yellowish-orange. But the stone can also be other colors like brown, black, red, blue, or green. Amber is readily available in synthetic and natural fibers. Some traditional leather tanning methods yield various shades of amber too.

Chartreuse
This is a vivid yellow-green, sometimes called acid yellow or acid green. It appears most often in synthetics and often carries a luminous quality. It's one of the boldest accent colors.

Glas
This Celtic color word is most often translated as blue or green, but it can also mean gray, silver, or black. It really means "ocean-colored," and like the ocean can be calm or ominous. It's a good term for a cool, watery color that looks different depending on the light or what you wear it with. This color appears a lot with overdyed natural fibers, either two dye baths or dye over naturally tinted fiber, and some natural dyes also produce this range.

Greige
This is a pale blend of warm beige and cool gray, making it sort of a light taupe. The mix of warm and cool means you can wear it with either, and it's one of those colors prone to shifting with the light. Quite a lot of unbleached, natural fibers fall in this range such as hemp and some wool. Greige is a light neutral, worth considering if you don't like white or ivory.

Feldgrau
This is a cool gray-green, sometimes with bluish tones. It is the cool counterpart of olive, which is a slightly brighter yellow-green. Warm-toned people often use olive as a near-neutral base color, and feldgrau can serve the same purpose for cool-toned people.

Hazel
Most often cited in eye colors, hazel is a blend of blue, green, and/or brown, rarely with gray tones. It's often used as a catchall for any ambiguous color in this general range. It tends to be warm, but can mix warm and cool tones. Its brownish or grayish versions can work as a medium near-neutral base color.

Huathe
Another Celtic color term, this one has been translated as dark gray, brown, or purple. It really means "terrible-colored," and is typically cited as storm-colored or bruise-colored. It's kind of like taupe, but spookier. You can sometimes get a good huathe from walnut hulls mordanted with iron. If you just want to fuck with people, consider huathe as a dark neutral.

Iolite
The stone iolite is bluish-purple, sometimes with grayish tones, but changes color from different angles. It's another that often appears in overdyed fibers, but shot-silk can duplicate its color-changing ability. This is also a known failure mode of indigo dye, so watch for it in marked-down or outlet-mall jeans.

Mauve
This color is pinkish-purplish-gray across quite a wide range, appearing in both natural and synthetic fibers. It can be obtained from a variety of bark and lichen dyes. It's a soft color that many people find reassuring. Interestingly, if you like craft-bleaching T-shirts, black, coffee brown, and midnight blue all have a chance of fading to mauve. Top-quality tie-dye colors also creep to mauve if you do single-color tie-dye with them. Ice-dyeing and snow-dyeing will also get you some fantastic maybe-colors thanks to the magic of chemistry and physics.

Orchid
This is a bright pinkish-purple. Many orchid flowers actually are this color. It appears mostly in synthetic fibers. Sometimes people call it "thistle" but thistle flowers tend to be pink. An easy place to find it is fancy men's dress shirts, which have a lot of different almost-but-not-quite-pink tints. It's an eye-catching accent.

Oxblood
This dark red can have brownish or purplish tones. It's easy to find in leather, especially dressy shoes, but also appears widely in autumn clothes. Because the color is used by both genders, a fun switch is wearing a shoe style for a gender contrary to your appearance or the rest of your clothes, and oxblood chelseas make a great unisex shoe that isn't sneakers. This makes a very interesting choice of base color for your leather goods.

Rust
This is a fairly bright shade of orangish-brown. It has slight variations in russet, fawn, and fulvous. It's a base of autumn palettes and goes with most warm colors. It is widely available in natural fibers or leather, but harder to hit in synthetics. Some sheep come in a surprisingly bright shade of rust, almost orange. If you want an eye-catching near-neutral as one of your base wardrobe colors, rust is a good bet.

Stone rose
A grayish-pink color, this shows in some desert flowers, and certain lichen dyes. This color is just plain hard to find, but like other not-quite-pinks, great for messing with expectations.

Taupe
This is typically brownish-gray but can have purplish tones. It balances warm and cool shades, so it can go with either. You see it a lot in wool, suede, and synthetic ultrasuede. Lots of people wear this as a medium or dark neutral, especially for their leather goods.

Teal
Balanced between blue and green, teal is like a dark turquoise. It can lean either way, which influences whether it matches better with warm or cool colors. It's widely available in both natural and synthetic fibers. This is among the most popular accent colors.

Yellow-grey
Most people can't even see this one, because it requires being able to see yellow and blue colors at the same time without merging them into green, and standard human eyes don't do that trick (although there are ways that may simulate it). But there are references to it in Celtic tradition, it's an eye color in that gene pool, and I see it most often in sunlit stormclouds. I've also seen it in sheep wool, but I doubt anyone is dyeing this on purpose. You could probably get it by overdyeing soft yellow on light grey wool or blue-gray on blonde wool. If you can find or make this, it would be another interesting base color for messing with people, and looks spectacular if you have the matching eye color.
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[personal profile] fuzzyred 2021-06-13 12:40 pm (UTC)(link)
This is a fascinating list of colours. I think the oxblood is my favourite, though I also like teal and have a few shirts that colour.

The idea of forbidden colours is so interesting and I'll have to see if I can find more on it. Unfortunately, when I tried the test in the article, I couldn't actually get my eyes to stack the plus signs together, so I have no idea if I can see bluish-yellow or not.
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[personal profile] mdlbear 2021-06-13 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)

I used to have oxblood shoes (a long time ago); naturally the association sent me off down a rabbit-hole in Wikipedia.

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[personal profile] fuzzyred 2021-06-14 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Looking at the link for oxblood clothing, I'd love to have a pair of oxblood shoes and that long sleeve knit top. I'd need some warm, dark neutral pants but I think it would be so pretty.
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[personal profile] fuzzyred 2021-06-14 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
I will have to keep an eye out for those things then. I like most of the red type shades, though I need to be careful with them because not all of the bright ones actually look good on me. I think oxblood should be okay though, with its warmness and darkness.
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[personal profile] fuzzyred 2022-02-05 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Those are all great suggestions. I haven't found any good oxblood clothes yet, but I did find a few other "maybe" colours that I liked.

I'll have to remember to go looking for shoes, I think I'm about due for another pair.
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[personal profile] fuzzyred 2022-02-06 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)
>>Oxblood yarn:<<

They're all so pretty! I *really* want that merino lace one, it has such beautiful colours.

>>Search synonyms: maroon, burgundy, wine, marsala, aubergine, etc.<<

Thanks for the tip and some synonyms. I'll keep those in mind next time I'm searching online.

>>Also other leathergoods like belts, wallets, purses, briefcases, etc.<<

Oh yes. I tend to forget about things like accessories. There were some really nice sandals in those links, and some purses too, although remembering to look at the price is a good idea for me, because leathergoods have a tendency to cost more than I expect.

And those jackets! There were a couple in there that were absolutely gorgeous, in both styles, though I'm not sure if a jacket designed for men would fit me right.
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[personal profile] fuzzyred 2022-02-13 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
>>Shoes and any one other accessory make a good accent cluster. If you're the kind of person who likes to match shoes to belt or purse, it's worth having sets in more than one color.<<

That sounds like a place to start for accessories.

>> A quality leather item is an investment that can last for years. Consider getting a cheap one to try out the color, but if you like it, either save up or use holidays to obtain something more durable.<<

That sounds like a really good plan. Leather definitely seems like a good item to go for quality on.

And shopping in person would give me a chance to see what styles look good, and see what colours are available and what they look like.

I did find a pair of pants today that were oxblood/maroon coloured and actually fit! And they didn't cost a fortune :D
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[personal profile] fuzzyred 2022-02-16 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for that list of accessories. :D I don't often wear jewelry, since I can't wear it at work and often forget to put it on at home, but I do like earrings and sometimes necklaces or bracelets. I'm not a huge shoe or purse person, but having more of those to change out at will might be nice, especially if I can get them in interesting colours.

I love The Vivienne Files! I think I first found them thanks to one of your Shiv shopping poems, and now I follow along on a regular basis. She always has such interesting and well put together outfits, and I've gotten some good ideas from there.

>>That can make a great anchor for a fall/winter cluster. This is more plum than oxblood, but you get the idea: pants, a T-shirt, a flannel shirt, a cardigan, earrings, scarf, and shoes. Four garments and three accessories give you many options to mix-and-match with your neutral basics, or with other fall/winter colors like goldenrod or forest green.<<

That is a great idea! I'll have to keep that in mind the next time I'm doing some shopping.
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[personal profile] fuzzyred 2022-02-20 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
>>Either a cardigan/top or top/bottom pair. These are the most powerful options with just 2 garments, because you can wear them together or separately. Especially if you like prints, it really expands your options. This is a good bet for trying out a new color.<<

I did that! I went out yesterday looking for more shirts, and I happened to find a t-shirt that was almost identical in colour to the oxblood pants I bought. *happy flap* I almost got a plaid flannel shirt that had oxblood and other colours too, but I ended up not loving it as much, so went with other shirts instead.

Those other clusters sound useful too. I might looking for shoes or a purse at this point, or some jewellry since those seem the most likely and most versatile; I have some beige and brown neutrals that I think would pair well with the oxblood. An outer shirt might work too, though I'm less confident in my ability to find one of those that I like.
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[personal profile] fuzzyred 2022-02-25 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
>>If you like plaid flannel, keep an eye out for it. There's often some sort of oxblood, burgundy, maroon, etc. because flannel is a fall/winter fabric and those colors fit the cool dark seasons. Plaid is great as an integrator because it combines two or more colors. Plus you can wear a flannel shirt buttoned up, or open with another shirt underneath it.<<

I like the look of plaid flannel, but I find it often doesn't look good on me, so I have to be really particular. I do have a blue/black/white plaid one that actually looks good, so I may yet be able to find a serviceable oxblood one.

>> If you like men's shoes, don't overlook those. Oxblood has some of the snazziest dress shoes. Sometimes it appears in women's shoes too.<<

I will keep that in mind. I think I might see if I can find a pair of suitable shoes for my monthly reward in a few days.

>>Get those out and test them against the oxblood you have just collected. The beige is an excellent bet; it goes with most colors. Brown will depend on its color and the version of oxblood.<<

This is a good idea. It also might be a good idea to wear the item I'm trying to match the next time I go shopping; I'm not so good at recalling colour from memory.

>>Think about what kinds of garments you like to wear and what silhouettes you prefer. Consider practicalities; I don't like things that swish around so much that they snag. If possible, try to collect a more-shaped (like a suitcoat) and a less-shaped (like a flannel shirt or loose cardigan) outer top, to give yourself options.<<

I tend to go for button up cardigans myself, or sweaters of any kind. I do have a few open front cardigans, but they are not usually my first choice.

>>Since you're a fibercrafter, you also have the option of making something for yourself. Hence why I included references to oxblood yarn. Consider combining it with other colors you like, such as navy or forest green. A neutral is good, but beige is the best bet and that one's light enough to stain easily. Either keep it small or go with something stain-resistant like acrylic, because beige wool won't stay beige for long. :/ <<

This is true. I would be most likely to make a shawl I think, or perhaps a scarf, so beige might be alright there, but I will definitely keep the suggestion of stain-resistant yarns in mind. Most of what I buy does tend to be acrylic anyway, since I mainly shop at mainstream craft stores.
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[personal profile] dialecticdreamer 2021-06-13 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I went on a fabric "spree"-- the association has tons of fabric that they give to quilters, and I had a chance to visit (for the first time in over a year).

All of the colors I chose except for navy are on this list.
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[personal profile] dialecticdreamer 2021-06-13 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
The navy doesn't matter; I'm saving every scrap that I can find in the blue family to make an all-blues quilt eventually. At this rate, I get about 2 2.5" squares per project, so it'll take FOREVER.
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[personal profile] dialecticdreamer 2021-06-13 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
My current quilting is all upcycling. I don't buy new fabric. That means that among the literal box of scraps, I have to deal with several palm-sized prints in :
- Christmas fabrics
- Some weird "wine-lover's" fabrics
- an even weirder "Farmhouse kitchen" stuff
- a collection of sports fabric in colors that clash with... eyeballs.

That's why I'm not getting much of my favorite color. If I bought new fabric, it would go together faster, but right now, the goal is to have NOTHING thrown away that's larger than 1" X 2."

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[personal profile] dialecticdreamer 2021-06-13 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
So it's different than a "crazy quilt" (I hate that name) because the pieces are placed raw edge to raw edge and sewn together flat, with layers on top to fill in gaps?
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[personal profile] dialecticdreamer 2021-06-13 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah! so it's the same tradition, but the "acceptable" ranges for things like raw edges being seen, is very different. It almost reminds me of reverse quilting.
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[personal profile] seleneheart 2021-06-13 02:53 pm (UTC)(link)
This is a fascinating analysis of alternative colors. I've never heard some of these, but I enjoy the new words and new color concepts.

I'm intrigued by the yellow-grey (the website is interesting). I have a lot of Celtic heritage in my background, and my father had blue eyes with a yellow ring around his pupil. My children and I have all inherited that ring. My eyes and my daughter's eyes are green and yellow, but my sons' are blue and yellow like my father's.

And it's definitely yellow, not a shade of brown.