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ysabetwordsmith ([personal profile] ysabetwordsmith) wrote2024-07-12 04:05 pm

Mammoths

First ever 3D reconstruction of 52,000-year-old woolly mammoth chromosomes thanks to serendipitously freeze-dried skin

An international research team has assembled the genome and 3D chromosomal structures of a 52,000-year-old woolly mammoth -- the first time such a feat has been achieved for any ancient DNA sample. The fossilized chromosomes, which are around a million times longer than most ancient DNA fragments, provide insight into how the mammoth's genome was organized within its living cells and which genes were active within the skin tissue from which the DNA was extracted. This unprecedented level of structural detail was retained because the mammoth underwent freeze-drying shortly after it died, which meant that its DNA was preserved in a glass-like state.


This is so exciting! :D 3q3q3q!!!!

Not only is it useful for de-extinction efforts, it alerts scientists to look for a new type of preserved remains that may exist for other species, mainly those that share mammoths' preferences for cold dry climates.
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[personal profile] siliconshaman 2024-07-12 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)

There's a bunch of Andean Mummies that would be ideal candidates for this! Not sure if it would be of any use other than as a technical challenge, but it could be done I suspect.

[personal profile] acelightning73 2024-07-12 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, you want to reconstruct a primeval llama? :-)
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[personal profile] siliconshaman 2024-07-12 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)

No, no.. a dead Lamia! Not a Dalai Lama!

[personal profile] acelightning73 2024-07-13 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Most of the better-known lineages of Lamas are reincarnated for every generation. Other Lamas practice divination to determine who, where, and when a new incarnation is born, so they can take the child to Lhasa to be educated for the position. Analyzing the DNA of previous incarnations might teach us something about the reincarnation procedure.
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[personal profile] siliconshaman 2024-07-13 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)

and the Myans had similar beliefs about reincarnation as the Tibetans. But they preserved their Lamas by sacrificing them to the mountain gods, ie, sending them up the mountain to freeze to death and thus remain preserved for eternity.

Now you get my point!!

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Re: Yes ...

[personal profile] siliconshaman 2024-07-13 07:48 pm (UTC)(link)

Yup, perfectly preserved samples dating back hundreds or even thousands of years.

[personal profile] see_also_friend 2024-07-13 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
If it would work on other sorts of mummies, that might open options for deserts and peat bogs.

Re: No ...

[personal profile] see_also_friend 2024-07-13 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
Okay...I do remember something about gene-sequencing Egyptian mummies, but that's probably a different process.

There's a lot of different genetic sequencing tests, I suppose.

Re: No ...

[personal profile] see_also_friend 2024-07-13 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
Its disappointing the others won't work, but there's still lots of cool potential megafauna to analyze and/or clone.
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[personal profile] galadhir 2024-07-14 04:10 pm (UTC)(link)

Iirc there are environments still which are desperately in need of giant ground sloths, because their chief fertilizer is giant ground sloth dung. It would be good if we could get some of those back!

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Re: Well ...

[personal profile] galadhir 2024-07-17 08:55 am (UTC)(link)

LOL! I don't know, we've discovered farming since then. If they were that tasty, maybe we could domesticate them :)

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Re: Well ...

[personal profile] galadhir 2024-07-17 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)

Oh yeah, I mean I was thinking of farming them once we had genetically re-engineered them. So in the modern day when we could approach by helicopter or jeep, maybe figure out a way of herding them with drones and pick them off with long distance weapons. If they're that tasty and that difficult to handle, it's going to be a high end luxury food that only the rich can afford, which will pay for all the technology needed.