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ysabetwordsmith ([personal profile] ysabetwordsmith) wrote2011-02-15 09:06 pm
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Surname Maps

[livejournal.com profile] janetmiles and my partner Doug tipped me to this cool resource showing surname maps.  So, if you're a writer and you want to name an ordinary character from one of these places, you can pick a surname from the relevant place and it will fit.  This is a very discreet and effective trick with local color.

Re: Neat!

[identity profile] ysabetwordsmith.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
That reminds me: if an author plans to make a lot of characters for a given city/area, as in a novel or a series of stories, then a great trick is to obtain a phonebook from there. Some places give them away free, while others charge a small fee. You can also ask friends to give you last year's phonebook. Pick both last and first names out of there, just try to use combinations that aren't already in print together.

Re: Neat!

[identity profile] aldersprig.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a cool idea! (I tend to need random name generators of some sort, or I either have way-out-there names or a lot of Janes and Jacks. I like out-there names so much I made it a setting feature in my webserial!)

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[identity profile] ysabetwordsmith.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 06:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I like to jot down spammer names for the far-out stuff. Very good inspiration there.

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[identity profile] aldersprig.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
*giggle* that's awesome.

Most of Addergoole was done via Random Baby Namer or "name meaning xx" Google searches, except the few random ones that are really obvious that I made up (whoops; another argument for consistent worldbuilding BEFORE you post your serial!)

Re: Neat!

[identity profile] msstacy13.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Now I'm having another Homer Simpson moment.
Mmmm...
Post cereal.
:)

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[identity profile] aldersprig.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
/chuckle/

...Crap! ... now I want raisin bran...!

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[identity profile] msstacy13.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
At least raisin bran is better for you than donuts.

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[identity profile] aldersprig.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup!

Raisin Bran + Shredded wheat has been my lunch for most of the last 13 months of weight loss! :-D

Re: Neat!

[identity profile] ysabetwordsmith.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, Raisin Bran makes awesome muffins. I think it used to come with a recipe on the box, but that was years ago.

Re: Neat!

[identity profile] aldersprig.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
We keep meaning to make bran muffins... I'll have to look it up.

Try this...

[identity profile] ysabetwordsmith.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
http://www.cooks.com/rec/search/0,1-0,kellogg_raisin_bran_muffins,FF.html

This one looks very similar to what I recall, except for the buttermilk. I think grandma usually used plain milk or half-and-half instead.
http://www.cooks.com/rec/view/0,194,144167-248205,00.html

Re: Try this...

[identity profile] aldersprig.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Cool, thanks! I'll let you know how it comes out!

Re: Neat!

[identity profile] ysabetwordsmith.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 07:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, very useful trick. I also have a "backwards" name dictionary for writers, which is indispensable. *chuckle* Actually I have half a shelf of baby name books, which I've been collecting since junior high. People used to give me very disapproving looks for standing in that aisle, until I got out of college or thereabouts. I learned to say, "I'm not pregnant. I'm a writer shopping for character names." It was my version of "I'm not planning to murder anyone, I'm looking up poisons/guns/etc. for a mystery novel."

Re: Neat!

[identity profile] aldersprig.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
That's very neat!

I used to collect names when I was in high school, didn't really get into name-meanings until later.

Re: Neat!

[identity profile] ysabetwordsmith.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Name etymology has been a hobby of mine as far back as I can remember. My quick-and-dirty knowledge of Greek and Latin began with hacking dinosaur names to get the meanings.

Re: Neat!

[identity profile] aldersprig.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Etymology in general has always interested me, but name etymology came later.

I have a couple name nerds who started reading Addergoole just for the names :-D