>>If Wednesday has a sexual interest at all, inept teen boy is clearly not it.<<
Some people might like ineptitude and childishness in a partner, but... :/
I also wonder if the dynamic of women disliking immature male partners but many men liking immature female partners has to do more with gender roles or power dynamics. Histrionics are much more intimidating when done by someone a foot taller and half-again as heavy as you...
>>It also comes out that Tyler has a history of assault and vandalism -- normally not great boyfriend credits, but Wednesday isn't bothered by that.<<
Also, keep in mind that he mentioned that he stopped hanging out with his friend group. On the one hand yay, they were bullies and good riddance, but on the other he doesn't mention any new social connections, and suddenly becoming a loner fits in with a mental illness (like say a Hyde manifestation). Uncontrolled mental illness* and lack of other social connections are not great signs when considering starting a new relationship either.
>>Despite Tyler's claim of Wednesday sending him "mixed signals," she has been crystal clear about her disinterest in him. Probably every woman has had some creepy guy interpret "standing in the same room" as "interest in him."<<
Yeah, if you're interested: ask nicely and then _wait_ for an answer. Also, don't push boundaries while waiting for that answer.
Women aren't dolls, sheesh.
>>To his credit, he arranges a picnic in Joseph Crackstone’s crypt and they watch Legally Blonde, which is Wednesday's idea of a horror movie. <<
So he has a decent grasp of some social skills. Creepy if you perceive him as a sociopath, has potential if you perceive him as a messed-up kid.
>>Tyler's transformation into the Hyde is a similar representation of how men often change after getting what they want from women; it's a common trope because it's a common problem.<<
I have heard it summed up as: Women understand the social investment during courtship to be a contractual 'subscription fee' to a relationship, and feel betrayed when he stops paying up. Men feel the investment during courtship is an entry fee - and once in the relationship they don't feel obligated to keep paying up. (These are generalizations, and people aren't locked into them, but I think it is a good illustration of a widespread pattern.)
>>A different method is taking a pivotal moment as your turning point for Alternate Universe fanfic.<<
It would be interesting to see an AU where Tyler doesn't manifest the Hyde until after meeting (and making a connection with) Wednesday. Then after he whatshername tries to activate the Hyde, he ends up imprinting on Wednesday instead (someone he shares interests with, an Outcast who isn't hostile towards him, and someone who is scary enough to make all the upsetting people back off). I think we had a discussion about this in one of the earlier posts...
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Some people might like ineptitude and childishness in a partner, but... :/
I also wonder if the dynamic of women disliking immature male partners but many men liking immature female partners has to do more with gender roles or power dynamics. Histrionics are much more intimidating when done by someone a foot taller and half-again as heavy as you...
>>It also comes out that Tyler has a history of assault and vandalism -- normally not great boyfriend credits, but Wednesday isn't bothered by that.<<
Also, keep in mind that he mentioned that he stopped hanging out with his friend group. On the one hand yay, they were bullies and good riddance, but on the other he doesn't mention any new social connections, and suddenly becoming a loner fits in with a mental illness (like say a Hyde manifestation). Uncontrolled mental illness* and lack of other social connections are not great signs when considering starting a new relationship either.
>>Despite Tyler's claim of Wednesday sending him "mixed signals," she has been crystal clear about her disinterest in him. Probably every woman has had some creepy guy interpret "standing in the same room" as "interest in him."<<
Yeah, if you're interested: ask nicely and then _wait_ for an answer. Also, don't push boundaries while waiting for that answer.
Women aren't dolls, sheesh.
>>To his credit, he arranges a picnic in Joseph Crackstone’s crypt and they watch Legally Blonde, which is Wednesday's idea of a horror movie. <<
So he has a decent grasp of some social skills. Creepy if you perceive him as a sociopath, has potential if you perceive him as a messed-up kid.
>>Tyler's transformation into the Hyde is a similar representation of how men often change after getting what they want from women; it's a common trope because it's a common problem.<<
I have heard it summed up as: Women understand the social investment during courtship to be a contractual 'subscription fee' to a relationship, and feel betrayed when he stops paying up. Men feel the investment during courtship is an entry fee - and once in the relationship they don't feel obligated to keep paying up.
(These are generalizations, and people aren't locked into them, but I think it is a good illustration of a widespread pattern.)
>>A different method is taking a pivotal moment as your turning point for Alternate Universe fanfic.<<
It would be interesting to see an AU where Tyler doesn't manifest the Hyde until after meeting (and making a connection with) Wednesday. Then after he whatshername tries to activate the Hyde, he ends up imprinting on Wednesday instead (someone he shares interests with, an Outcast who isn't hostile towards him, and someone who is scary enough to make all the upsetting people back off). I think we had a discussion about this in one of the earlier posts...