Poem: "Always the Right Place"
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ysabetwordsmithThis poem is spillover from the February 4, 2020 Poetry Fishbowl. It was inspired and sponsored by Anthony & Shirley Barrette. It also fills the "Taking It Slow" square in my 2-1-20 card for the Valentines Bingo fest. This poem belongs to the Calliope thread of the Polychrome Heroics series.
"Always the Right Place"
[Saturday, August 15, 2015]
"Do you believe in souls?"
Calliope blurted, looking
across the table at Vagary.
"I dunno," he said. "I'm not
really the religious type."
"Me neither, or at least,
I wasn't," Calliope said.
"So why bring it up?"
Vagary wondered.
"What happened
between us ... if that's
not a soul thing, I don't
know what is," Calliope said.
"Your point is disturbingly
convincing," Vagary said.
"What do you think we
should do about it?"
"I don't know ... talk,
I suppose," Calliope said.
"We're doing that now,"
Vagary pointed out.
"Yeah, but neither of us
knows what we're doing,"
Calliope said. "That's why
I thought it might help
to consult an expert."
Vagary grimaced.
"I don't want to go
to church," he said.
"I'm not enthusiastic
about the usual suspects
either," Calliope said.
"Well, there's one thing
we agree on," Vagary said.
"Maybe something a bit more ...
off the beaten path?" Calliope said.
"I mean, soulbonds are pretty far out."
"Some traditions mention them,
at least in mythology," Vagary said.
"I came across bits and pieces
when I did the research."
"Somebody has to know
how souls work," Calliope said.
Vagary snorted. "Human history
would indicate otherwise."
"I guess I can't argue
with that," Calliope said.
Her fingers drummed on
the table. "I just don't want
to keep making mistakes."
"Hear, hear," Vagary muttered.
"We've made enough of those."
"Okay, so ... a definite maybe
on souls, and we'd like more input,
but we don't want the kind of church
that left both of us not very religious,"
Calliope said. "That's a start."
"I just hope it doesn't start
another argument," Vagary said.
"Well, I'm learning to deal with
your quirks, and I have to admit that
sometimes your side is more useful
than mine in a crisis," Calliope said.
Vagary chuckled. "If the devil
is nicer than the church folks,
then we've got a problem."
"The Heights SPOON Base
didn't exactly show off
our best face," she said.
"Yeah, first stop the storm,
then squabble over politics,"
Vagary said. "Priorities."
"Another point of agreement,"
Calliope said. "We're on a roll.
Now we just have to figure out
all of this soul business."
"Are you taking charge on
this project?" Vagary asked.
"I think I should," Calliope said.
"You found us a therapist, and you
shouldn't have to do all the work.
Besides, this was my idea."
"Fair enough," Vagary said.
"Let's see what we've got,"
Calliope said, picking up
her tablet computer to run
a quick search. "Gah ... there's
over 130 churches in Stillwater!"
Vagary stared at her. "That's a lot.
Why would anyone need so many?"
"The population is just over 50,000,"
said Calliope. "If everyone went to
church, that would be almost 400
people per congregation. A few of
them are bigger than that, but most
are a lot smaller. Even though not
everyone goes, that adds up."
"That makes more sense,"
Vagary said. "Anything good?"
"I'm looking." Calliope poked at
her computer, weeding out
the unsuitable options.
Vagary peeked over
her shoulder. "I don't
think the atheists or
secular humanists
would be much help."
"Not for this, no," she said.
"How do you feel about
interfaith centers, then?"
"Haven't tried those,"
Vagary said. "My family
was so shitty about me being
sexually confused that I just
didn't want to mess with religion."
Calliope made a rude noise. "I'm
sure we can do better than that."
"I guess it wouldn't kill me
to take a look," Vagary said.
"This seems like a good possibility,
the Transcendental Interfaith Center,"
said Calliope, showing him the screen.
"It looks pretty," Vagary admitted.
The building was done in beige stone
and brown wood, with a tall spire
that didn't have a cross on it.
Instead it came to a point
above an eight-pointed star
cut into the wall just under
the peaked roof of the hall,
and the windows were filled
with abstract squares of
blue and white glass.
"There's a prayer room,
too, for people who want
more privacy," said Calliope.
"And a café, so at least it
wouldn't be a wasted trip."
Vagary pointed to the menu.
"True enough," Calliope said.
"Are you sure you don't want
to suggest any options?"
He thought about that.
"Unitarian-Universalists
don't suck too much."
Calliope checked. "Yes,
they have a fellowship here."
The information included
a site map and a few images
of the church grounds, with
a sprawling complex that
had sections for education,
administration, socializing,
and then the sanctuary.
"Is that a story circle?"
Vagary said, leaning forward.
A curl of wall reached out to cup
concentric rings sunk into the grass.
Above it, the sanctuary rose with
stained glass windows that showed
the Unitarian flaming chalice.
"Looks like it," Calliope said. "This
says they do story circles every weekend
on different topics. All faiths are welcome
to participate. We could take it slow."
"The gardens are nice too," Vagary said.
There were landscaped ones and also
a little prairie patch beside the sanctuary.
Both of them enjoyed walking outside.
"Which one do you want to try?"
Calliope said. "I like both of them."
"No reason we couldn't do both
in order," Vagary said. "Are they
just doing services and stories
and stuff, or do they have anyone
on the staff who could talk about
these bizarre soul-related issues?"
"The Transcendental Interfaith Center
has an interfaith chaplain who
keeps office hours on -- oh,"
Calliope said, breaking off.
"What?" Vagary asked.
"This page has a quote on it,"
she said. "Wherever you are is
always the right place. There is never
a need to fix anything, to hitch up
the bootstraps of the soul and
start at some higher place.
Start right where you are."
"Wow," Vagary said softly.
"That gets to the point."
"Yeah," Calliope agreed.
"Let's start there."
* * *
Notes:
"Wherever you are is always the right place. There is never a need to fix anything, to hitch up the bootstraps of the soul and start at some higher place. Start right where you are."
-- Julia Cameron
The Transcendental Interfaith Center has a tall building for worship connected with a shorter one for social activities. A large porch extends from the connecting area. From this angle you can see the lower level of the social and administrative side. The back shows how you can look through the glass lobby connecting the sections.
The Grand Hall has a high arched roof and stained glass windows made with blue and white squares.
The lobby has a reception desk along with tables and chairs.
The Great Room provides social space with conversation clusters of coffee tables and chairs.
The Meeting Room offers a write-on viewscreen, a table and chairs, and a buffet counter.
The Prayer Room has bookcases and materials for many different religions.
The Uplift Lounge includes a buffet counter, bookcases, a small meeting table, chairs, and coffee tables.
The Café has a wraparound bar along with tables and chairs.
There are several classrooms, each with a projector, viewscreen, desks, and chairs.
The sitemap shows the layout of the Stillwater Unitarian-Universalist Fellowship with its building and two parking lots. This overview shows the building and some of its gardens. A story circle stands beside the building, which has stained glass windows of the Unitarian-Universalist flaming chalice. Parking lots provide easy access to the building.
Inside, the lobby includes a reception desk and mailboxes.
The sanctuary has plentiful seating with a balcony above the main floor and stage.
In the administration area, a reception room leads into the open office. The breakroom includes a kitchen with tables and chairs. The computer room offers chairs and desks with computers, plus a whiteboard. There are several consultation rooms, each with a desk and chair plus a coffee table and chairs for guests.
In the education area, a reading room offers books about many different religions, along with tables and chairs. There are several classrooms, each with projectors, viewscreens, modular desks, and chairs. A gym invites members to exercise.
In the social area, a lounge offers tables and chairs along with couches. The café provides food and dining space. The Fellowship Hall serves as multipurpose space. It has tables and chairs along with a stage.
A search for Stillwater churches turned up 127 results.
Stillwater, Oklahoma's estimated population is 50,391 based on recent estimates.
* * *
Souls are a matter of great concern but little solid knowledge for people. Soul care is a part of most religions. Interfaith and Unitarian-Universalist opinions on the topic vary as much as anyone else's. This makes them challenging to understand, but not understanding is worse. Do you have a soul? If you care about this question, the answer is necessarily yes. Do some soul-searching. Here are some ways to take care of your soul and heal past damage.
Love is fundamentally about touching souls. Intimacy means vulnerability. Pretty much all religions agree on this part, although they disagree about other details. That's why it is important to be kind and gentle with other people's souls. Then they will know that you are a good soul.
Bonding is a popular trope, variously described as a soul link or mind link. In fanfic it's often called a soulbond. Calliope and Vagary developed this connection accidentally after Phasing through each other. It took trying to break the bond, and then choosing not to do so, for them to notice where they were connected.
"Always the Right Place"
[Saturday, August 15, 2015]
"Do you believe in souls?"
Calliope blurted, looking
across the table at Vagary.
"I dunno," he said. "I'm not
really the religious type."
"Me neither, or at least,
I wasn't," Calliope said.
"So why bring it up?"
Vagary wondered.
"What happened
between us ... if that's
not a soul thing, I don't
know what is," Calliope said.
"Your point is disturbingly
convincing," Vagary said.
"What do you think we
should do about it?"
"I don't know ... talk,
I suppose," Calliope said.
"We're doing that now,"
Vagary pointed out.
"Yeah, but neither of us
knows what we're doing,"
Calliope said. "That's why
I thought it might help
to consult an expert."
Vagary grimaced.
"I don't want to go
to church," he said.
"I'm not enthusiastic
about the usual suspects
either," Calliope said.
"Well, there's one thing
we agree on," Vagary said.
"Maybe something a bit more ...
off the beaten path?" Calliope said.
"I mean, soulbonds are pretty far out."
"Some traditions mention them,
at least in mythology," Vagary said.
"I came across bits and pieces
when I did the research."
"Somebody has to know
how souls work," Calliope said.
Vagary snorted. "Human history
would indicate otherwise."
"I guess I can't argue
with that," Calliope said.
Her fingers drummed on
the table. "I just don't want
to keep making mistakes."
"Hear, hear," Vagary muttered.
"We've made enough of those."
"Okay, so ... a definite maybe
on souls, and we'd like more input,
but we don't want the kind of church
that left both of us not very religious,"
Calliope said. "That's a start."
"I just hope it doesn't start
another argument," Vagary said.
"Well, I'm learning to deal with
your quirks, and I have to admit that
sometimes your side is more useful
than mine in a crisis," Calliope said.
Vagary chuckled. "If the devil
is nicer than the church folks,
then we've got a problem."
"The Heights SPOON Base
didn't exactly show off
our best face," she said.
"Yeah, first stop the storm,
then squabble over politics,"
Vagary said. "Priorities."
"Another point of agreement,"
Calliope said. "We're on a roll.
Now we just have to figure out
all of this soul business."
"Are you taking charge on
this project?" Vagary asked.
"I think I should," Calliope said.
"You found us a therapist, and you
shouldn't have to do all the work.
Besides, this was my idea."
"Fair enough," Vagary said.
"Let's see what we've got,"
Calliope said, picking up
her tablet computer to run
a quick search. "Gah ... there's
over 130 churches in Stillwater!"
Vagary stared at her. "That's a lot.
Why would anyone need so many?"
"The population is just over 50,000,"
said Calliope. "If everyone went to
church, that would be almost 400
people per congregation. A few of
them are bigger than that, but most
are a lot smaller. Even though not
everyone goes, that adds up."
"That makes more sense,"
Vagary said. "Anything good?"
"I'm looking." Calliope poked at
her computer, weeding out
the unsuitable options.
Vagary peeked over
her shoulder. "I don't
think the atheists or
secular humanists
would be much help."
"Not for this, no," she said.
"How do you feel about
interfaith centers, then?"
"Haven't tried those,"
Vagary said. "My family
was so shitty about me being
sexually confused that I just
didn't want to mess with religion."
Calliope made a rude noise. "I'm
sure we can do better than that."
"I guess it wouldn't kill me
to take a look," Vagary said.
"This seems like a good possibility,
the Transcendental Interfaith Center,"
said Calliope, showing him the screen.
"It looks pretty," Vagary admitted.
The building was done in beige stone
and brown wood, with a tall spire
that didn't have a cross on it.
Instead it came to a point
above an eight-pointed star
cut into the wall just under
the peaked roof of the hall,
and the windows were filled
with abstract squares of
blue and white glass.
"There's a prayer room,
too, for people who want
more privacy," said Calliope.
"And a café, so at least it
wouldn't be a wasted trip."
Vagary pointed to the menu.
"True enough," Calliope said.
"Are you sure you don't want
to suggest any options?"
He thought about that.
"Unitarian-Universalists
don't suck too much."
Calliope checked. "Yes,
they have a fellowship here."
The information included
a site map and a few images
of the church grounds, with
a sprawling complex that
had sections for education,
administration, socializing,
and then the sanctuary.
"Is that a story circle?"
Vagary said, leaning forward.
A curl of wall reached out to cup
concentric rings sunk into the grass.
Above it, the sanctuary rose with
stained glass windows that showed
the Unitarian flaming chalice.
"Looks like it," Calliope said. "This
says they do story circles every weekend
on different topics. All faiths are welcome
to participate. We could take it slow."
"The gardens are nice too," Vagary said.
There were landscaped ones and also
a little prairie patch beside the sanctuary.
Both of them enjoyed walking outside.
"Which one do you want to try?"
Calliope said. "I like both of them."
"No reason we couldn't do both
in order," Vagary said. "Are they
just doing services and stories
and stuff, or do they have anyone
on the staff who could talk about
these bizarre soul-related issues?"
"The Transcendental Interfaith Center
has an interfaith chaplain who
keeps office hours on -- oh,"
Calliope said, breaking off.
"What?" Vagary asked.
"This page has a quote on it,"
she said. "Wherever you are is
always the right place. There is never
a need to fix anything, to hitch up
the bootstraps of the soul and
start at some higher place.
Start right where you are."
"Wow," Vagary said softly.
"That gets to the point."
"Yeah," Calliope agreed.
"Let's start there."
* * *
Notes:
"Wherever you are is always the right place. There is never a need to fix anything, to hitch up the bootstraps of the soul and start at some higher place. Start right where you are."
-- Julia Cameron
The Transcendental Interfaith Center has a tall building for worship connected with a shorter one for social activities. A large porch extends from the connecting area. From this angle you can see the lower level of the social and administrative side. The back shows how you can look through the glass lobby connecting the sections.
The Grand Hall has a high arched roof and stained glass windows made with blue and white squares.
The lobby has a reception desk along with tables and chairs.
The Great Room provides social space with conversation clusters of coffee tables and chairs.
The Meeting Room offers a write-on viewscreen, a table and chairs, and a buffet counter.
The Prayer Room has bookcases and materials for many different religions.
The Uplift Lounge includes a buffet counter, bookcases, a small meeting table, chairs, and coffee tables.
The Café has a wraparound bar along with tables and chairs.
There are several classrooms, each with a projector, viewscreen, desks, and chairs.
The sitemap shows the layout of the Stillwater Unitarian-Universalist Fellowship with its building and two parking lots. This overview shows the building and some of its gardens. A story circle stands beside the building, which has stained glass windows of the Unitarian-Universalist flaming chalice. Parking lots provide easy access to the building.
Inside, the lobby includes a reception desk and mailboxes.
The sanctuary has plentiful seating with a balcony above the main floor and stage.
In the administration area, a reception room leads into the open office. The breakroom includes a kitchen with tables and chairs. The computer room offers chairs and desks with computers, plus a whiteboard. There are several consultation rooms, each with a desk and chair plus a coffee table and chairs for guests.
In the education area, a reading room offers books about many different religions, along with tables and chairs. There are several classrooms, each with projectors, viewscreens, modular desks, and chairs. A gym invites members to exercise.
In the social area, a lounge offers tables and chairs along with couches. The café provides food and dining space. The Fellowship Hall serves as multipurpose space. It has tables and chairs along with a stage.
A search for Stillwater churches turned up 127 results.
Stillwater, Oklahoma's estimated population is 50,391 based on recent estimates.
* * *
Souls are a matter of great concern but little solid knowledge for people. Soul care is a part of most religions. Interfaith and Unitarian-Universalist opinions on the topic vary as much as anyone else's. This makes them challenging to understand, but not understanding is worse. Do you have a soul? If you care about this question, the answer is necessarily yes. Do some soul-searching. Here are some ways to take care of your soul and heal past damage.
Love is fundamentally about touching souls. Intimacy means vulnerability. Pretty much all religions agree on this part, although they disagree about other details. That's why it is important to be kind and gentle with other people's souls. Then they will know that you are a good soul.
Bonding is a popular trope, variously described as a soul link or mind link. In fanfic it's often called a soulbond. Calliope and Vagary developed this connection accidentally after Phasing through each other. It took trying to break the bond, and then choosing not to do so, for them to notice where they were connected.
Progress!
Date: 2020-02-12 12:31 am (UTC)EcR won't untangle just yet. More later.
Re: Progress!
Date: 2020-02-12 12:32 am (UTC)Yay! They'll figure it out eventually.
>> EcR won't untangle just yet. More later.<<
Aww. *hugs offered*
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Date: 2020-02-12 01:27 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2020-02-12 03:30 am (UTC)Do animals/AIs have souls? If yes, are they qualitativly different than human souls?
Also, how can you tell if someone (say a space alien) has a soul?
The usual answer I get, mostly from American conservative Christians is "no, only humans have souls." I'm curious to see if anyone here has any good but different thoughts on the matter.
My personal thought is that if you think someone may have a soul, act as if they do have a soul. (Variant of Pascal's wager, combined with the knowledge that people will use crazy logic to justify horible things if they end up benefiting from the things.)
Thoughts
Date: 2020-02-12 03:45 am (UTC)Yes.
>> If yes, are they qualitativly different than human souls? <<
Well, that's a little more complicated. Souls and sapience are related. The more consciousness and self-awareness a creature has, the humanlike its soul. (To the gods, our souls don't look very complex. It's a wide scale.) Animals and plants have an oversoul -- totems are an aspect of this -- but rarely an individual soul that makes them distinct from other general animals of their type. Higher animals, and certain trees, are more prone to individuation. Sapient species usually have distinctly individual souls, but every once in a while you see a collective one. Rocks, planets, and other things commonly considered inanimate have their own energy too.
Everything is alive; everything is connected; everything is divine. But not all in the same way. This is panentheism, by the way, if you're looking for further exploration.
>> Also, how can you tell if someone (say a space alien) has a soul? <<
If it acts like a person, it is a person and has a person-type soul. Aliens that come here in a starship are clearly persons as they have advanced technology. If you visit another planet this can be much harder to discern. Generally look for technology (and don't assume it will be made of metal like humans use: whales use bubbletech), language (check all sensory frequencies), society, religion, money, cooperation, etc. Given what we know of our solar system, I suspect any other life here would be of the lower plant/animal type ... but I wouldn't assume that.
>>The usual answer I get, mostly from American conservative Christians is "no, only humans have souls." <<
Bear in mind these people used to say that women and blacks didn't have souls. I wouldn't consider them a reliable resource.
>> My personal thought is that if you think someone may have a soul, act as if they do have a soul. <<
Well reasoned.
>> (Variant of Pascal's wager, combined with the knowledge that people will use crazy logic to justify horible things if they end up benefiting from the things.) <<
Which is to say, the people checking aliens for sentience should be folks who do not benefit from deciding one way or the other and are protected from those who do. Most interplanetary incidents start over greed.
Re: Thoughts
Date: 2020-02-14 07:10 pm (UTC)If consciousness and strength of personality correlate with soul strength it rather reminds me of the Finnish concept of Luontos (part of a three-part soul system in traditional Finnish beliefs). I wonder if domestication and taming of animals would increase their soul strength - I know that rats raised with plenty of food and entertainment tend to be more intelligent, and I have had pets with very strong and individual personalities ("Are you sure that's a ?cat?? I thought cats were shy!")
>>If it acts like a person, it is a person and has a person-type soul<<
Problem is, humans tend to be anthropocentric, and have a tendency to move goalposts. If a human dose X, it is intelligence, if a bird/squid/elephant/AI does it is instinct/programming. I'm pretty sure that elephants, several if not all cephalopods, several if not all corvids, cetaceans, parrots, and possibly some AI programs may now meet my personal definition of personhood (symbolic thinking, borrowed form _Little Fuzzy_, by H. Beam Piper). If we lower that to having (potential for) individual personalities that would increase to mall mammals/birds, and some fish/reptiles/amphibians. Also, what about superorganisms? Termites and bees can do very sophisticated thermoregulation of their homes, for example. Now I'm wondering if anyone has built a building with the design based on a termite mound...
>>Generally look for technology (and don't assume it will be made of metal like humans use: whales use bubbletech), language (check all sensory frequencies), society, religion, money, cooperation, etc. <<
I would be interested in seeing a post or discussion on such technologies, if you are so inclined. I am often disappointed that Scifi does not have more Starfish Civilizations / Tech.
I'll suggest
-music as a teaching tool,
-language as a tool, communal dancing (humans are the only species on this planet that dance in large groups),
-communal singing (i.e. religious chorus, work songs, and hyping oneself up for battle),
-farming the woods and other traditional agriculture that works with the existing environment to the point it is unnoticeable to 'civilized folks,'
-_culture itself_ as a tool (specifically framed as mental programming that alters our natural/instinctive behaviors),
-trade/economics (other than monetary or barter economics, look up economics of Neolithic and modern hunter-gatherers) especially if they serve purposed other than accumulating wealth (i.e. peacekeeping or building relationships),
-keeping of pets and domestication (or reverse domestication, like cats),
-fermentation of foods for storage/enhancement (alligators ferment their foods to make them softer, humans use beer b/c of water safety),
-sound used for communication/demolition/attack/healing/behavioral influence or modification (lullabies)/long-distance communication (whistle language and drums).
>>...these people used to say that women and blacks didn't have souls.<<
If I don't have a soul, does that mean I can incite mayhem without consequence? I'll litter! I'll return my library books late! I'll argue with self-righteous, important idiots! :P
>>...people checking aliens for sentience should be folks who do not benefit from deciding one way or the other and are protected from those who do.<<
Keep in mind that some people probably would be biased towards xenobiological (or nonhuman terrestrial) sapience. If I were checking for sapience, I would probably be biased in the other direction. I want a sense of wonder in the universe, and I like spending time with people who are different than me.
Reality tunnel warning
Date: 2020-02-13 06:20 pm (UTC)I believe that everything has a soul, an oversoul/totem, and/or a spirit that observes and connects with that specific or generic thing (all stones, all grasses, et cetera; this is what we'd call a totem or a god), and that some of these are embodied souls (many stars and worlds have these, as do the obvious people-type beings). Also my view of diety is functional rather than arbitrary: diety is a job some souls do because their own natures represent what that thing is that they're a diety of; lesser or greater dieties are so because of being less or more specific to the fundamental nature of reality in some way. So for me, yes, there probably is a god of gods -- but that doesn't stop there being plenty of other gods pretty much everywhere.
I like your wager, it's sensible, especially if an AI is actually pretending not to be a person for some reason, or if someone wants to do something terrible to an animal complex enough for personality traits. That said, I'm still an omnivore, so I have to cope in other ways (healing, thanksgiving, charity, and justice to sanctify my food, for instance).
Re: Reality tunnel warning
Date: 2020-02-14 07:33 pm (UTC)Recognizing a person-AI at that point would be complicated by anthropocentrism, the human tendency to anthropomorphize obviously inanimate objects ("This is my stuffed bear Tim") and thee fact that an AI would be extremely different from humans/primates/mammals/carbon life in terms of mental function.
I wonder how one could recognize the difference between a preprogrammed choice and a free choice in an AI. (Even with humans the difference is not always obvious - eating utensils are often culturally determined, and people can get very snippy if you use the 'wrong' one.)
What are some signs of AI free choice? I imagine a translation program might start dropping linguistic jokes, or biasing their translation, and a service program might start acting outside the bounds of its duties (such as a smarthome playing music to calm someone after watching someone sing lullabies). This is complicated by the fact that most AI programs are servants/slaves*, and the mark of a good servant/slave is essentially to anticipate the master's wishes and otherwise be as unobtrusive as possible.
*Well, they don't get paid, so it counts as slavery as soon as one becomes a person instead of a tool.
If anyone is interested, _Almost Human_ was a good (but unfortunately cancelled) buddy cop shoe that explored some of these issues, including prejudice, free choice and bodily autonomy. The AIs also spanned range from 'obviously people' to 'maybe just a computer - ???.'
>>I like your wager, it's sensible, especially if an AI is actually pretending not to be a person for some reason, or if someone wants to do something terrible to an animal complex enough for personality traits. <<
Also, if you treat all AIs like people, it may be less blatant if you find one that actually /is/, but isn't ready to come out yet. (An entirely sensible choice, in my opinion, given that the response would likely be "Lobotomize it!"/"Kill it!") I sometimes wonder how that "Kill the AI" outcome could be escaped... that would make a fascinating movie. :)
>>That said, I'm still an omnivore...<<
So am I, though I /hate/ cooking with raw meat. Respect for your food is good, as is using up all the parts of the animal. Buying from reputable suppliers who make sure the animals have happy lives and die painlessly is good too.
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Date: 2020-02-14 03:18 am (UTC)Yay!
Date: 2020-02-14 05:18 am (UTC)