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A scene I saw on TV reminded me of this epic image.  And now I'm wanting to recast it with half a dozen middle-aged women cosplaying General Organa in a war room, and the caption "Somewhere there's a feminist with only two wishes left."  Surely there must be a con somewhere that this could happen.

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Date: 2017-08-02 06:53 pm (UTC)
kerkevik_2014: (Coyote Dykes)
From: [personal profile] kerkevik_2014
I think I know who she is as well...

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Date: 2017-08-02 09:12 pm (UTC)
peoriapeoriawhereart: Janine Melnitz, Ghostbuster (Janine)
From: [personal profile] peoriapeoriawhereart
snort. (As if there is only one. The rebellion is a groundswell.)

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Date: 2017-08-02 09:15 pm (UTC)
peoriapeoriawhereart: Steve in khaki, Peggy foreground (Behind Woman)
From: [personal profile] peoriapeoriawhereart
Hmm, now I want random cosplayers having a pillow fight as a hypermeta Hawkeye initiative.

Which means, Deadpool will be involved. Probably while wearing a tutu.

Re: Yes...

Date: 2017-08-02 09:27 pm (UTC)
peoriapeoriawhereart: very British officer in sweater (Brigader gets the job done)
From: [personal profile] peoriapeoriawhereart
I've seen an image and yes, vitiligo was my first thought (I'm not a Deadpool dyed in the wool, mostly I know him as a trickster figure in Spider-man.)

See, for those that aren't Hawkeyes, can't bend that way or are female-bodied, the Pillowfight would be the next wave of Deconstruction.

Indiana Jones and Han Solo having a pillowfight. Yes.

So many Captain Americas, Peggy Carters, DS9 etc etc having a pillow fight.

All the jam. Preserve us.

Re: Yes...

Date: 2017-08-02 10:00 pm (UTC)
peoriapeoriawhereart: Steve in khaki, Peggy foreground (Behind Woman)
From: [personal profile] peoriapeoriawhereart
Well, yes, no one can bend like the comic book Sexy Pose, but some people can RL sexy, but not all people bend even that much.

Basically, I'm pro-trope reappropriation, in this case from Old Cinemax.

Call the Doctor Who cosplayers, someone must have a Mara that looks better than the aired version. Might have won it at the fair.

Re: Yes...

Date: 2017-08-02 10:32 pm (UTC)
peoriapeoriawhereart: Ray gotta eat him up with a big spoon (Ray with marshmellow creme)
From: [personal profile] peoriapeoriawhereart
(pretend that's Ray on one of his tears. Like an Avatar of Captain Steel)

Have you seen this one? (NSFW) https://www.themarysue.com/milo-manara-frank-cho-stop-it/ If you've seen it, the url should remind you of whence I speak. (Not the cover image, the Presentation Artwork.)

Re: Yes...

Date: 2017-08-03 12:07 am (UTC)
siliconshaman: black cat against the moon (Default)
From: [personal profile] siliconshaman
I forget which of the comic book artists has a regular subscription to, and stack of back issues of, various porn magazines.. which he basically traces over to "create" his "art". I do recall he works for Marvel, still. Even after he basically solicited an under-age intern to pose naked for him, privately, after hours.

Of course, that never went to court.

Re: Yes...

Date: 2017-08-03 12:24 am (UTC)
siliconshaman: black cat against the moon (Default)
From: [personal profile] siliconshaman
Yeahh... starting round about the '80's I think. I'd like to think he's the exception, but one glance at the cover art of most of the current line up tells me otherwise.

Talking of Stan's.. there's a story [unconfirmed but it rings true] that he and Stan Lee were at a a con together...one of the big ones, and thus didn't know each other was there. Up until one fateful panel... Stan lee was already seated waiting for the panel to start, chatting with teh fans. This "artist" [I want to say rob something or other, maybe..I suck at names] rolls up a good ten minutes late.

Well, he walks up to Stan. Holds out his hand for a hand shake....and Stan the Man just stares at him. So he says his name, and Stan turns to the chair host, and says "I thought this panel was for artists, not pornographers?"

The host flat tells Stan that he can't insult a fellow guest like that. So, Stan stands up, and remarks, loudly: "Well, in that case. I apologise... to any real pornographers in the room."

and he leaves, along with most of the fans.. and holds an impromptu panel out in the foyer.

And that's what happened to superhero characterisation.. Stan Lee and his ilk retired or left to go indie.

Re: Yes...

Date: 2017-08-03 11:12 am (UTC)
siliconshaman: black cat against the moon (Default)
From: [personal profile] siliconshaman
yeah, that's the guy! Responsible for the 'swole super-heroes' and 'porn-star heroine' trend. Looks like he's still bitter towards Stan Lee as well. Jerk that he is.

Re: Yes...

Date: 2017-08-03 12:47 pm (UTC)
peoriapeoriawhereart: Opening the can and skipping names (Dangerous and good to know)
From: [personal profile] peoriapeoriawhereart
I've saw some of the videos in tracking that down, and I think Stan erred in using a prior conversation style and they've never forgiven him for not accepting they were the best(tm).

I recommend the behind the scenes segments on Fantastic 4 (2005 and 2007) for the reminiscence of Jack Kirby (can't recall which it's on) for a look into those 'creators' that grew up in California.

Re: Yes...

Date: 2017-08-03 03:05 am (UTC)
peoriapeoriawhereart: blond and brunet men peer intently (Napoleon & Illya peer)
From: [personal profile] peoriapeoriawhereart
I tried to find the title of a book I read, it's by one of the first wave of Brit illustrators, that came in post-Comic Code but hadn't figured out how to put their own boundaries and as such courted ever more extremes. It's got a chapter on The Fridging.

I'm leaning to thinking the Stunting the Comic Code lead to (there's one Batman issue that's costumes in a rainbow of colors. It's actually pretty clever, so I won't spoil.) because they couldn't have natural consequences of actions, and couldn't have vampires and so on and so forth, resulted in a wave of comic book professionals that don't know about moral arc.

Re: Yes...

Date: 2017-08-03 03:40 am (UTC)
peoriapeoriawhereart: cartoon men (Egon and Peter)
From: [personal profile] peoriapeoriawhereart
It's like they learned about the 'readymade art' of hanging a urinal and signing it, and now that's all they do. Unaware how that was specific to a time and place, a context of Institutions. But yes, armed with advantages Jack Kirby didn't have, they used them less, compared to the way in the 1960s he was reading Joseph Campbell when he wasn't drawing, just about.

Cue Steve Rogers laying into Tony Stark in The Avengers. They're Tony and the lambast is well deserved.

Re: Yes...

Date: 2017-08-03 04:30 am (UTC)
peoriapeoriawhereart: Steve in khaki, Peggy foreground (Behind Woman)
From: [personal profile] peoriapeoriawhereart
I fear that they've had this 'method' demonstrated to the near exclusion of alternatives.

When I stumbled across my PBS playing NuWho, I was very confused. The only budget I expect is 20 pounds sterling of wiffle balls, spray paint, and then keeping the embroiderers busy until the next Opera. Operating under those conditions, or the dodgy justification of 4 color printing back in the day, you had to have a story or at least a cool idea.

I sweat my fan fiction, but then I'm not writing for my supper. There are times that I release my fanfic when I must stop 'touching the paint', ready or not.

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Date: 2017-08-03 12:11 am (UTC)
siliconshaman: black cat against the moon (Default)
From: [personal profile] siliconshaman
Huh, maybe I'm not a normal male fan... but I can support that idea!

Although frankly.. if the Rebellion had had more than one General Organa, the films would have been a whole lot shorter! And that's counting the scene where the Empire sues for peace.

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