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This essay looks at meaning without work.  Really the problem is not a shortage of work.  There's a ton of stuff that needs doing, there always will be, and people need stuff to do.  The problem is one of distribution: how to pay people for what needs doing.  So much of the money is stuck in a few hands, who don't want to pay for work.  If you want meaning, form relationships, make stuff, have adventures, choose hobbies, save the world.  This often has little if anything to do with making a living, though some of us are lucky enough to find both together.

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Date: 2017-05-10 01:45 pm (UTC)
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UBI has been a recurring theme for most folks I know, and although I think it's an inevitability, I also know that we live in a society that will not approve of this unless massive changes occur from an overall scale. Perhaps the most ironic thing will be that some of the lesser-valued but highly-skilled fields will in turn receive more value (e.g. academia as a whole being valued rather than favored in a "flavor of the month" capacity).

I'm genuinely curious how long certain things will persist in this future scenario if it is wholly embraced. Will a stock market be little more than a front for the future of IRAs thanks to a perfectly roboticized level of industries? Will this spur a new generation of "artisan" class folks who, replicating our current economic situation with highly educated but poorly compensated workers, will push a sort of nature renaissance? Or maybe we'll all just be forgotten as corporate feudalism reconstructs our world into one too many Gibsonesque fantasies?

I'm sure many, MANY, speculative fiction authors have discussed this future, but I can definitely agree with the issues of distribution as I have seen in the industry for creatives in general.

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Date: 2017-05-10 04:08 pm (UTC)
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To go a little further on the idea, I can see how the article also is approaching the topic of "ennui" that was associated with the 20th century upper class (at least, as how my professors told it) where you have the wealth to not worry about doing anything, but since we're such a capitalist society with so many brought needs and distractions, I think that people will find their own niches and identify and prolong them through natural or capitalism-enforced ways compared to those times. Though I may also be generalizing since psyche may also depend on how people approach it?

There was also that article I remember about how certain traits like ADHD were a consequence of "explorer genes," so maybe if we haven't by then, then the age of space exploration will be pushed further since UBI would encourage more equality for everyone to pursue what they want. That Mars mission scam that was being pushed certainly already shows that that seed has been long planted and is just awaiting for the right primer to really make it grow.

Sorry for the double post, this just made me really introspective towards the concept and I'm a sucker for speculative hypotheses, specious as some of them may be.

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Date: 2017-05-24 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cissa.livejournal.com
That ties into the fact that there's enough food for everyone on the planet to eat adequately; it's the distribution that's the problem.

When some get power and wealth from withholding needed stuff from people- food, clothing, housing, work- there will be both waste and privation.


Date: 2017-05-24 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ysabetwordsmith.livejournal.com
That's the problem. When you say that everything is already owned, there's nowhere people can go to make their own way. So some starve and die, because the people in power think that money is more important than lives. >_


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