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In current news, see Asimov's Law #4.


For those of you not on Facebook, Law #4 reads "Avoid Philadelphia."  That's where the HitchBOT was destroyed.

Now I really want to see someone write a setting using Asimov's Laws, where there are no robots allowed in Philadelphia because that would actually violate Law #3.

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Date: 2015-08-05 09:50 pm (UTC)
capriuni: Text: If you want to be a Hero, be Good to the Storyteller. (Default)
From: [personal profile] capriuni
BTW, that article was not viewable to all (Don't have a Facebook account)
Edited (left out a key word) Date: 2015-08-06 12:08 am (UTC)

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Date: 2015-08-05 11:01 pm (UTC)
siliconshaman: black cat against the moon (Default)
From: [personal profile] siliconshaman
Can't see that article as I don't have a facebook account.

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Date: 2015-08-06 12:58 am (UTC)
clare_dragonfly: woman with green feathery wings, text: stories last longer: but only by becoming only stories (Writing: stories last longer)
From: [personal profile] clare_dragonfly
Why Philadelphia? Is this a reference to something?

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Date: 2015-08-06 03:30 am (UTC)
curiosity: The sky turning yellow and orange and sunlight spilling over the ocean as the sun rises. (Picto: Ocean Sunrise)
From: [personal profile] curiosity
As a Pennsylvanian, I am not surprised. Lotta hate in the cities.

the HitchBOT

Date: 2015-08-06 03:56 am (UTC)
dialecticdreamer: My work (Default)
From: [personal profile] dialecticdreamer
I have more problems with the people who blew off the destruction of private property as a "prank" than I do with the disappointingly predictable destruction itself.

If I ride my bike to the store and park it, even when I walk away from it --that's still my property-- and no one over the age of FIVE can actually believe that destroying something is a prank, can they? A prank causes no damage, physical or otherwise, and it certainly doesn't mean that I can't USE my property exactly as well as before said "prank."

Maybe law number four should be "Avoid Philadelphians?"

Re: the HitchBOT

Date: 2015-08-06 09:37 am (UTC)
dialecticdreamer: My work (Default)
From: [personal profile] dialecticdreamer
HitchBOT had a destination printed on it somewhere, correct? To me, that does not mean it was abandoned, but still the property of the research team and in transit.

They chose not to use FedEx or the postal service, but the bot was still their property while in transit, just as if it had fallen off the delivery truck.

I think it says a LOT about the total lack of discussion about ethics rather than laws at the appropriate age (ten or so through graduation from high school) that
even the NEWS reports claim the robot was "abandoned" rather than "PLACED" somewhere.

Re: the HitchBOT

Date: 2015-08-06 10:49 am (UTC)
dialecticdreamer: My work (Default)
From: [personal profile] dialecticdreamer
I think it's important to note that HitchBOT got across Canada in 26 days. Safely.

That's an understanding of community spaces -and the purpose of community- which is dying in the US.

The whole concept of public commons can't be discussed until someone understands the idea of private, whether private property or private thoughts and comments. Public isn't necessarily the opposite, but is definitely the complement.

Kids between one and two start understanding private as "MINE!" -often complete with screech and grabby hands. They have to learn how to share after learning that they can control/own things.

Maybe our entire government should be sent to the same ethics lessons as the newest crop of ten-year-olds... Or five-year-olds. We need both public commons and privacy!

The link

Date: 2015-08-06 01:02 am (UTC)
ng_moonmoth: The Moon-Moth (Default)
From: [personal profile] ng_moonmoth
It doesn't go anywhere I can get to: "not a valid link or part of a circle you don't belong to". I am actively uninterested in having my name registered in the Book of Face, so that may be part of the answer. But I'd still be interested in what's on the other side.

Re: The link

Date: 2015-08-07 05:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] westrider.livejournal.com
Try it here (https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11825029_952552431474924_7482144479876018944_n.jpg?oh=af2123e5db0ba662a806ff4d1ba623f4&oe=56421449).

Re: The link

Date: 2015-08-07 06:03 am (UTC)
ng_moonmoth: The Moon-Moth (Default)
From: [personal profile] ng_moonmoth
Thanks much.

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Date: 2015-08-06 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fayanora.livejournal.com
I'm frankly surprised the hitchbot got as far as it did before being destroyed.

Yes...

Date: 2015-08-06 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ysabetwordsmith.livejournal.com
My reaction on seeing the original article about the experiment was, "That poor robot! Hitchiking is dangerous!"

I was surprised to find that it had successfully hitched across Canada and several other countries, but to be fair, they are more civilized than America. Places like Canada and Germany have better income distribution and social safety nets, public health care, and other survival needs met better than here. So that helps people feel more connected with society, more compassionate, less angry and frightened. In America, people feel angry, frustrated, and scared much of the time with no outlet. So they take it out on the vulnerable. It's very sad.

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